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Astrolepis/Asterolepis Eichwald, 1840[edit]
There is a discussion on Taxacom over which of these names (for which we apparently have as yet no entry under either spelling; though we have the parent taxon Asterolepidae with a red link for Asterolepis) for fossil fishes is correct.
It will be interesting to see the outcome, and to consider how we reflect the matter on Wikispecies.
Note that we have Astrolepis Benham & Windham, (1992; Plantae) and Asterolepis Meyrick, 1910 (Lepidoptera), but neither relate to Eichwald, 1840. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- As per the cited Taxacom discussion, R. Van der Laan, "Family-group names of fossil fishes", 2018 https://doi.org/10.5852/ejt.2018.466 uses Order Asterolepidiformes, Family Asterolepididae Traquair 1888, "name and spelling in prevailing recent practice", and genus Asterolepis Eichwald 1840, which makes Asterolepis Eichwald 1840 a corrected original spelling cf. the original publication in Bulletin Scientifique publié par l'Académie Impériale des Sciences de Saint-Petersbourg in which it is spelled Astrolepis (there is a separate, slightly later work published in as Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Geognosie, Geologie und Petrefakten-Kund. 1840: 421-430 in which the "Asterolepis" spelling is used, but this is irrelevant for nomenclatural purposes). My just updated record for this name, which follows Van der Laan in this respect, in IRMNG is at https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=11936170 if you wish to take a look. This would make Asterolepis Meyrick, 1910 (Lepidoptera) a junior homonym, something that is apparently unaddressed in the Lepidoptera world at this time. Tony 1212 (talk) 18:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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New properties proposal in Wikidata[edit]
Hello, I remember @Faendalimas: comments there that makes me thinks that Wikispecies users may have interesting points of view, or ideas, regarding how is treated synonymy in Wikidata. There are a set of properties proposal that will allow to indicate if an item is "just" a synonym, or/and a protonym, ect.. See taxon synonym of, protonym of, basionym of and replaced synonym of. Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Charles A. Ely[edit]
Hello, we have a Charles Adelbert Ely an ornithologist said to be born in 1933, this is confirmed by this page [1], where it is also said that he is the author of "Shallow-water Asteroidea and Ophiuroidea of Hawaii". However this article is from 1942 [2] and he can't be the author as he was too young. Another article from 1944 authored by the echinodermologist is listed in Jstor [3], in the preview we can read "Charles A. Ely, University of Wisconsin". Every where in the web all is like if there was only one Charles A. Ely, so I can't find infos about the echinodermologist. I'm going to create a secong page here for the echinodermologist as to me it seems obvious that he is not the same author, excepted if the date of birth of the ornithologist is wrong. If anyone has comments or information on one of the two authors, they are most welcome. Thanks you, Christian Ferrer (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is a thesis for a Master of Science [4] and the author seems to have been born in 1913 [5].I found a Charles Aubrey Ely born that year but didn't check further than that. Quasi-grip (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thanks you, when he published that thesis he was affiliated to the University of Hawaii, and I found a newspaper article [6], from 19 September 1938, saying that Charles A. Ely joined the staff of department of Zoology of the University of Hawaii in 1938, and that he was also graduate of the Washington and Jefferson University. Christian Ferrer (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update: a contact in the Bernice P. Bishop museum have been able to kindly provides me infos: this is Charles Aubrey Ely born 11 Dec 1913 in Pennsylvania and dead the 11 Mar 2006, I even have a photo. I will create soon a page here and a Wikidata entry, thanks again. Christian Ferrer (talk) 06:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thanks you, when he published that thesis he was affiliated to the University of Hawaii, and I found a newspaper article [6], from 19 September 1938, saying that Charles A. Ely joined the staff of department of Zoology of the University of Hawaii in 1938, and that he was also graduate of the Washington and Jefferson University. Christian Ferrer (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Done See Charles Aubrey Ely and Q126163744, I added a template {{Distinguish}}as almost every where in the web they are wrongly confused. I was able too to find more infos in American men & women of science : physical and biological sciences [7]. Christian Ferrer (talk) 08:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)- That's great. I changed to the correct taxon authority on Swedish Wikipedia for the new species mentioned in his thesis. Quasi-grip (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Non English book titles[edit]
There is an entomologist page Medvedev with a list of his works as an example. Some titles was transliterated from Russian. How should they be? In original (Russian) with translation to English? I saw the same situation with journal names and book series names, I think the same recommendation will be applied to them? Vmartyanov (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I usually create or edit reference templates with both original non-English titles (with their original non-Latin characters; e.g.
{{Makino, 1940a}},{{Pimenov, 2017}}) and its English translation so that more people could access them directly or retrieve their bibliographical information readily since OPACs of non-Latin countries such as Bulgaria, China, Japan, Russia, Thailand, etc. often contain only their native titles as far as I know. As for publication titles, however, their Latin-transcriptions (not translation) would be preferable since some publications are registered in such a way in external databases (e.g. Ботанический журнал as 'Botanicheskii Zhurnal' in IPNI). --Eryk Kij (talk) 06:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)- I tend to follow IPNI. May be I am just being lazy. On a related, but different matter I find it very frustrating that I can not find full text or abstracts of non-English papers through Scholar or similar search Engines. Andyboorman (talk) 07:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- On the latter point, search engines as a rule fail to recognise IPNI's standard journal abbreviations; finding the relevant full title can be surprisingly difficult, but once you get it, the search engines work well to locate the papers. I think we should stop using the abbreviations... - MPF (talk) 11:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Abbreviations are praxis for Names and not just on wikis. However, I agree are definitely not acceptable for references. Andyboorman (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- On the latter point, search engines as a rule fail to recognise IPNI's standard journal abbreviations; finding the relevant full title can be surprisingly difficult, but once you get it, the search engines work well to locate the papers. I think we should stop using the abbreviations... - MPF (talk) 11:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- I tend to follow IPNI. May be I am just being lazy. On a related, but different matter I find it very frustrating that I can not find full text or abstracts of non-English papers through Scholar or similar search Engines. Andyboorman (talk) 07:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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