Wikipedia:城市論壇

歡迎嚟到城市論壇。呢一組頁面係用嚟討論有關技術問題、政策，同埋維基百科嘅運作，分成五個地方。

呢版唔係用嚟做討論。請用下面嘅表去搵出最適合嘅部份貼文，或者貼喺「雜項」部份。請喺有關嘅版度貼文時簽名同埋加上日期（用~~~~或者喺編輯工具列中撳一下簽名掣）。

城市論壇小節
政策 監察 去討論現有同埋建議嘅政策	技術 監察 去討論技術性問題。有關wiki軟件嘅臭蟲報告請用Phabricator	提議 監察 去討論同政策無關嘅新提議。	諗法實驗室 監察 喺貼俾社群之前提議討論諗法同埋嘗試搵有關問題嘅解決方法	雜項 監察 去貼唔能夠符合任何類別嘅信息
一次過去睇城市論壇所有嘅部份

唔使等到星期日嘅中午十二點，亦都唔使拎張飛，隨時隨地都可以嚟呢個論壇度討論維基百科嘅大小事情 [加]
呢個地方就好似一個熱廚房噉，當有人討論一啲議題嗰陣，呢個論壇係會搵嚟一啲嘉賓或者台下觀眾發言去改善佢哋嘅嘢。

其它幫手同埋討論位置

我想……					去邊度
一次過瀏覽晒全部「城市討論」嘅議題					城市論壇 (全部)
知道點用維基百科					幫助櫃枱
查詢特定嘅事實（例如邊個係第一位教宗？）					詢問處
為某篇文章提出建設性嘅批評					同儕互評
幫手解決某一篇文章所引起嘅爭執或者投訴某用戶行為					請求意見
喺某篇文章加上您嘅評論					文章嘅對話頁
睇其他維基媒體嘅計劃					元維基
知道點樣喺一本書或雜誌度引用維基百科					引用維基百科
報告複製自維基百科內容嘅網站					鏡像同埋分叉

呢個係城市論壇 (全部)嘅頁面，係會列出現時所有嘅討論以便閱讀。去城市論壇睇吓城市討論嘅部份，又或者撳吓喺每一個小節中嘅編輯連結去表達你嘅意見。要睇吓喺呢一頁嘅全部修訂，撳喺上面嘅歷史連結，並依照螢光幕上面嘅指示。

撳吓呢度去清除喺呢一頁嘅伺服器快取（去睇響城市討論部份嘅最近更改）

多過7日嘅討論（根據最後嘅評論）會被移到每個部份嘅分頁（叫做(小節名)/歸檔）。哩啲嘅討論會再喺嗰度保留7日。喺哩一段嘅時間嘅討論，如果可以嘅話，就可以移動到有關嘅對話頁。喺7日之後嘅討論會喺歸檔頁同埋主頁度刪除。佢哋之前嘅討論仍然可以喺佢哋嘅頁面歷史中搵到（可能會比較難搵到）但係唔可以搜尋到。

政策

是日好文無限 loop，試用版

我的起心肝整咗個是日好文無限 loop 系統。頭版更新草稿喺度：User:Deryck_Chan/頭版試機。留意右邊「時人時事」同「當年今日」中間加咗「是日好文」。呢個專欄背後係一條隊，裝晒所有好文嘅撮要，每日自動換一次畫。

如果大家望落鍾意嘅，我就更新頭版，加呢個「是日好文」上去，然後寫埋Wikipedia:是日好文上面嘅指示。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年7月30號 (二) 23:13 (UTC)

• 十卜。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年7月31號 (三) 00:40 (UTC)
• 個樣幾好，得嘅。--S7w4j9 (傾偈) 2019年8月2號 (五) 08:38 (UTC)

我諗如果一個禮拜都冇人反對，我就更新咗個頭版版面先。實際運作模式喺上咗頭版之後可以再改。我其中諗緊嘅一樣嘢係：不如將所有已經上過頭版「是日正文」嘅正文加埋落條好文無限 loop 隊？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年8月2號 (五) 13:06 (UTC)

我唔係反對，不過而家好文數量太少（64篇正文 vs 4篇好文），上頭版可能會自曝其短，來來去去loop幾篇文都幾尷尬。如果等到有多啲好文先至放頭版，可能會更好。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年8月4號 (日) 14:21 (UTC)

@Kowlooner： 我其中一個諗法係將所有上過頭版嘅正文加晒落去條隊度，噉就順手解決埋User:恐狼博士之前提出過，點解一篇文做過兩三個月頭版正文之後就永遠唔會再上頭版嘅問題。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年8月7號 (三) 17:48 (UTC)

順帶一提，噉不如將正表都加埋落去條隊嗰度（雖然家陣仲未有）？恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年8月8號 (四) 06:06 (UTC)

可以啊。一齊幫手加！翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年8月9號 (五) 10:24 (UTC)

好。我過兩個禮拜寫 Glossary of video game terms，睇吓可唔可以幫粵維添個正表。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年8月9號 (五) 14:25 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan： 我諗諗吓，不如如果一篇文當選咗做正表，佢就自動做埋好文？做得正表嘅質素實會有返噉上下，所以噉做嘅話可以慳返啲評審時間。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年9月3號 (二) 22:25 (UTC)

@恐狼博士：理論上，正表同正文都係高過好文嘅榮譽。如果我哋加晒所有正文同正表入好文無限 loop 隊，就唔使執著正表應唔應該同時係好文嘅問題。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年9月23號 (一) 17:19 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan： OK。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年9月23號 (一) 23:48 (UTC)

我開始咗加啲正文，由最舊嘅加起。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年10月5號 (六) 23:34 (UTC)

因應實際對部分指引做本地修訂

睇到依家嘅宣傳機器侵擾，成為咗國際級嘅事態，同埋近排對粵語圍嘅一啲負面思潮仲上升得好牙煙，本編將會著手對本地嘅一啲既有指引WP:NOT、WP:RELY等做出跟進修訂，會做埋一啲本地化嘅補正，同中英文嘅原條文可能會有一啲出入。初步係諗著增加啲針對個別事態下嘅條文，以日落條款形式，保持返本地空間喺嘅持平同自主獨立。

由於本地所依賴嘅資訊文獻等，仲依賴著非母語嘅載體同渠道，亦估計咗修訂會有機會喺技術上，限制咗一啲編輯嘅可信度，亦希望主力施行方針指引嘅編輯代表，執行既定方針陣，可以依據返既有狀況、編輯經驗、專業觸角等酌情裁量。本編才識粗疏，各位友善編輯讀者等，亦歡迎指教參詳，做出良好嘅討論。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年8月30號 (五) 05:12 (UTC)

• 初步翻譯同本地化咗WP:SCHOLARSHIP、WP:NEWSORG、WP:BIASED、WP:NOT#BUREAUCRACY。備檢視。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年8月30號 (五) 08:59 (UTC)

將所有檔案都搬到同享之上

由於本百科都開業咁耐，有啲古老圖片留喺本百科。管理嘅人唔多，睇來難以睇實咁多圖片，判斷版權事宜。建議交由同享決定去留。並且停上畀維基友上載。

本百科全部用同享檔案，唔知技術係咪可行？諸位又有乜意見呢？

HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年9月3號 (二) 18:48 (UTC)

一路都叫緊人上載自由圖片到同享，但總係有人唔聽話。至於係咪停咗成個上載功能，真係要諗清楚，雖然可以減少管理工作，但代價係連合理使用嘅圖都無得再用，所以呢個應該係最後行嘅一步。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年9月8號 (日) 13:05 (UTC)

同享系咩野来家？--⼥⼉ (傾偈) 2019年9月14號 (六) 18:55 (UTC)

維基同享。SC96 (傾偈) 2019年9月15號 (日) 01:10 (UTC)

技術

Tech News: 2019-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia. [1]

Problems

• Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress. [2]
• Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed. [3]

Changes later this week

• You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database. [4]
• There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年7月1號 (一) 21:23 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck. [5]
• Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature. [6]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
• The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools. [7]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [8]
• There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July. [9]

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2019年7月8號 (一) 20:13 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback. [10]

Changes later this week

• The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called 濫用過濾器 and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback. [11]

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2019年7月15號 (一) 15:30 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
• The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania. [12]

Problems

• The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2. [13]

Changes later this week

• Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected. [14]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile. [15][16]
• With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search. [17][18]
• Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
• The variable user_wpzero will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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2019年7月22號 (一) 13:07 (UTC)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

1. Section editing
   • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
   • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
2. Loading overlay
   • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

• Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
• Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
• Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
• Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

• Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
• Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

2019年7月23號 (二) 18:32 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [19]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年7月29號 (一) 21:42 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).

Problems

• A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed. [20][21]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.

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2019年8月5號 (一) 13:25 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated. [22]
• Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin. [23]

Changes later this week

• Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week. [24]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.

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2019年8月12號 (一) 18:19 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.

Problems

• Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
• Only six accounts can be created from one IP address per day. Between 12 August and August 15 this was two accounts per day. This was because of a security issue. It is now six accounts per day again. [25]

Changes later this week

• Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday. [26]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• There is an RFC about creating a new global user group with the right to edit abuse filters. This will be used to fix broken filters and make sure all filters will still work when software changes happen. You can read more and comment.
• Special:Contributions/newbies will no longer be working. This is because of performance reasons. It showed edits by new accounts. You can see this in the recent changes feed instead. [27]

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2019年8月19號 (一) 15:21 (UTC)

New tools and IP masking

Hey everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation wants to work on two things that affect how we patrol changes and handle vandalism and harassment. We want to make the tools that are used to handle bad edits better. We also want to get better privacy for unregistered users so their IP addresses are no longer shown to everyone in the world. We would not hide IP addresses until we have better tools for patrolling.

We have an idea of what tools could be working better and how a more limited access to IP addresses would change things, but we need to hear from more wikis. You can read more about the project on Meta and post comments and feedback. Now is when we need to hear from you to be able to give you better tools to handle vandalism, spam and harassment.

You can post in your language if you can't write in English.

Johan (WMF)

2019年8月21號 (三) 14:18 (UTC)

中文字

加上喎字。唔该嗮喎。-- Ktsquare (傾偈) 2019年9月2號 (一) 21:19 (UTC)

閣下係咪指CharInsert裏面嗰個輸入盒？如果係嘅話就搞掂咗。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年9月3號 (二) 01:06 (UTC)

原來按下改源碼後出現嘅「輸入窗」，下面「顯示中文字」嘅就係CharInsert？係嘅話，解釋俾人聽，好㗎。唔係嘅話，其他帳戶每要加字要每次喺到要求。大家都會厭攰同嫌麻煩 --Ktsquare (傾偈) 2019年9月3號 (二) 21:56 (UTC)

冇錯，下面源碼輸入窗嗰嚿嘢係叫做CharInsert，呢個可以由Gadget架生仔開同閂。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年9月4號 (三) 01:17 (UTC)

加多有粗、黑色嗰幾個字。掂嘅就直接加上，等下便尐中文字够新。米洗通知前通知後吖嘛。我依家打唔到尐字，你哋自己實搞得掂佢哋嘅。-- Ktsquare (傾偈) 2019年9月9號 (一) 01:12 (UTC)

有四個字加咗，有兩個未加入去。嗰度輸入嘅字通常都係以難打字為主嘅。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年9月9號 (一) 03:33 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can use the new termbox interface if you edit Wikidata on a mobile device. This is to edit labels, descriptions and aliases easier on the mobile pages. [28]
• The new version of MediaWiki has been deployed during the last week.
• The previously announced change of positions of the "Wikidata item" link on all wikis has been rollbacked due to unexpected cache issues. [29]
• The limit for rollbacks has been increased from 10 to 100 rollbacks per minute. [30]
• The advanced version of the edit review pages (Recent Changes, Watchlist, and Related Changes) now include two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces. However the "All discussions" filter does not include pseudo talk pages, like discussions that are in the Project: or Wikipedia: namespaces. But it will include changes happening on Project talk: or the Wikipedia talk:. [31]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 九月. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 九月. It will be on all wikis from 5 九月 (calendar).
• When you log in, the software checks your password to see if it follows the Password policy. From this week, it will also complain if your password is one of the most common passwords in the world. If your password is not strong enough, please consider to change your password for a stronger password. [32]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 九月 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikidata for up to 30 minutes on September 10 at 05:00 (UTC). [33]
• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 17 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [34]
• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 24 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [35]
• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for up to 30 minutes on September 26 at 05:00 (UTC). [36]

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2019年9月4號 (三) 09:08 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Some edits that used the visual editor were not working. This has now been fixed. [37]
• Last week's Tech News had delivery problems. Some did not get the newsletter. Some got it more than one time. The developers are working on the problem. [38]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 September. It will be on all wikis from 26 September (calendar).
• You will be able to read but not to edit an important number of mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes on 24 September at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [39]
• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for up to 30 minutes on 26 September at 05:00 (UTC). [40]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Internet Explorer 6 and 7 might not be supported in the future. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They would not get security support. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them makes the wikis less secure for everyone else. [41]

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2019年9月24號 (二) 13:26 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Last week's Tech News had delivery problems. Some did not get the newsletter. Some got it more than one time. The problem where some pages got it three times should now be fixed. [42]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 十月. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 十月. It will be on all wikis from 3 十月 (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 十月 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working on a watchlist expiry feature. This means you can put things on your watchlist for a period of time instead of forever. They are looking for feedback on the questions they have.
• Special:Contributions will get the standard OOUI look. This makes it easier to use on mobile and makes it look like other Special: pages. There is a script you can use to make the form smaller if you want to. [43]

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2019年9月30號 (一) 16:49 (UTC)

The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started

Hello,

In a recent statement, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees requested that staff hold a consultation to "re-evaluat[e] or add community input to the two new office action policy tools (temporary and partial Foundation bans)".

Accordingly, the Foundation's Trust & Safety team invites all Wikimedians to join this consultation and give their feedback from 30 September to 30 October.

How can you help?

• Suggest how partial and temporary Foundation bans should be used, if they should (eg: On all projects, or only on a subset);

• Give ideas about how partial and temporary Foundation bans should ideally implemented, if they should be; and/or

• Propose changes to the existing Office Actions policy on partial and temporary bans.

We offer our thanks in advance for your contributions, and we hope to get as much input as possible from community members during this consultation!

-- Kbrown (WMF) 2019年9月30號 (一) 17:14 (UTC)

個模走位

Template:ViuTV劇集個「【收埋】」走位，但近排個模無人大郁過，唔知點解決，有無人識搞搞佢？--Jasonmok92 (傾偈) 2019年10月1號 (二) 03:11 (UTC)

@Shinjiman：關唔關Special:Diff/1095254/1332341？--203.218.116.8（討論） 2019年10月1號 (二) 04:19 (UTC)

係同呢個有關，跟手改埋呢個。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年10月1號 (二) 04:30 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The abuse filter function now has a faster parser. This is to shorten the waiting time when you save an edit. [44]

Problems

• There is a problem in the visual editor when you copy or delete text with footnotes. It will be fixed soon. [45]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 October. It will be on all wikis from 10 October (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Community Wishlist Survey has a new format. It will focus on wikis that typically get less support. It will probably go back to the normal format next year. It is not decided exactly how it will work this year. You can leave feedback.
• The URL of the Wikimedia wiki main pages could be changed. This is because the current URLs cause several problems. For example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page would be https://www.wikidata.org/ instead. You can tell the developers if this would cause problems for your wiki.
• There is a new technical community newsletter. You can read more about the work of Wikimedia's technical community. Subscribe to get the information in the future.
• Outreachy is an internship program for groups who are underrepresented in free and open-source software. There are seven Wikimedia projects about coding, documentation and quality assurance in the next round. Persons who fit the criteria can apply. The last day to apply is 5 November.

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2019年10月7號 (一) 15:34 (UTC)

雜項

注意

zh:粵語歷史頭先畀人提刪zh:Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2019/07/24#粵語歷史，請各位編輯留意。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年7月24號 (三) 13:00 (UTC)

• 補上8月15號某發言，相當有針對性，編輯讀者等參詳，以理解成個可能面對咁嘅色勢。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年8月20號 (二) 14:09 (UTC)

Long-term sysop negligence

粵文維基百科管理員長期唔履行管理任務，譬如：

1. Special:SpecialPages包含各種輔助維護網站嘅統計報告，當中唔少管理員應主動並時常處理，譬如Special:UnconnectedPages、Special:斷鏈、Special:無分類嘅檔案、Special:未用檔案。長期冇人主動做。呢d維護，往往需要管理員先有嘅刪除功能，等第d人提交畀管理員處理係浪費編者時間。
2. 受惠於2007年3月Wikimedia Foundation嘅決議，受版權保護嘅圖片，可以喺符合本地維基百科嘅Exemption Doctrine Policy（EDP）嘅前提下，保留喺本地。但實際操作上，管理員長期無視本地EDP同WMF決議嘅要求。有唔符合EDP嘅檔案如File:Kobsmile.jpg，2007年6月上傳，一直到2018年先至由普通用戶提出即刪，2019年先刪得成。足證管理員從來冇意圖實行本地EDP。
3. 第1條涉及嘅維護，就算有人幫手做咗，管理員依然怠工：
   1. 就我個人經歷而言，喺呢一刻，仲有早到2018年12月19號提出即刪嘅檔案如File:Lightrailmap.JPG，8個月都未處理。
   2. 存檔之中亦不乏事例。譬如Wikipedia:城市論壇_(政策)/歸檔/2017年12月#有人似乎當咗呢度係相片儲存庫記載，2017年11月User:Kowlooner提出即刪一批檔案，但要到2018年2月27號，即係3個月後先處理：[46]。

請負責任，及時回應WP:VP、WP:AN等版面用戶提出嘅問題，使用專屬於管理員嘅工具。

Sysops on yue.wikipedia are not active in maintenance tasks. For instance:

1. Special:SpecialPages has a list of maintenance reports, but yuewp sysops are not doing their part to patrol and resolve pages in for example Special:UnconnectedPages, Special:斷鏈, Special:無分類嘅檔案, Special:未用檔案, etc.
2. yuewp opts into hosting fair-use files, but sysops have failed to implement the Exemption Doctrine Policy. File:Kobsmile.jpg was one such copyvio that had been uploaded in June 2007. Only in 2018 did a non-sysop user request speedy deletion, but it was still not deleted until 2019.
3. Sysops do not use the sysop tools exclusively reserved for them even if other users have done the tasks mentioned in point #1, for example:
   1. It's been 8 months since I requested speedy deletion of File:Lightrailmap.JPG.
   2. Many more frustrations could be found in archives. Wikipedia:城市論壇_(政策)/歸檔/2017年12月#有人似乎當咗呢度係相片儲存庫 is one such case. User:Kowlooner helped patrol the files and requested speedy deletion of many, but no deletion was done until 27 Feb 2018, three months later.

This is a formal complaint against yuewp sysop(s)' inaction. They have failed to respond to WP:VP and WP:AN and use the tools responsibly.--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年8月11號 (日) 19:14 (UTC)

User:Deryck Chan's misconduct

Facts:

1. 新法蘭西粵語拼音方案 (Q56257187) has been deleted from Chinese (repeatedly), English, French, German and literary Chinese wikipedias.
2. special:redirect/page/54299 was initially nominated for deletion on the grounds that it was written from unreliable sources and that no reliable sources could be found at all.
3. On top of being unsourced, the subject of that article was in fact Cedric tsan cantonais（留言 | 貢獻）'s own novel, unpublished idea.
4. The article is therefore unpublished, unverifiable, non-notable and self-promotional.
5. I filed complaints against self-promotion, but they were quickly censored by Deryck Chan（留言 | 貢獻）, apparently at Cedric tsan cantonais's request:
   1. special:redirect/logid/247977
   2. special:redirect/logid/248029
   3. special:redirect/logid/248030
   4. special:redirect/logid/248031
6. Deryck Chan also threatened me with a block for these complaints: special:diff/1260285.
7. User talk:Deryck Chan is rife with Cedric tsan cantonais's as well as a few other users' canvassing and personal attacks against me.
8. Deryck Chan closed the AfD in favour of Cedric tsan cantonais by dodging all of the problems listed in fact #4: special:diff/1276534.
9. To date, I have not received anything with regard to the outcome of the censored complaints of mine listed in fact #5.

Conclusion: The revision deletions listed in #5 are misuse of admin tools. The AfD closure could be the result of users' continuous attacks and lobbying.

I had objected to Deryck Chan's revdel and asked for review: special:permalink/1319266#投訴長期未處理, which remains unattended after five months. I would say that is just another instance of yuewp community's long-term sysop negligence.--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年8月14號 (三) 01:18 (UTC)

社群參考

呢度有7月份喺大陸發表咗嘅同維基話語相關嘅文稿，仲有部分中維編輯新出街嘅網刊有即時評論，附上部分網民嘅反應，依照依家勢色，備社群參詳。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年9月1號 (日) 04:28 (UTC)

補充文稿節選post——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年9月1號 (日) 06:36 (UTC)

睇埋zh:Wikipedia:《求闻》/2019年/《求闻》和中文维基百科。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年9月25號 (三) 09:43 (UTC)

邀請各位於9月15日前對九工作組的建議草案提供回饋

各位社群成員們好：

好耐冇見，想同各位分享吓依家願景2030嘅進度。响今年瑞典嘅Wikimania（維基媒體國際會議）度，九個工作組已經針對維基媒體2030發展，撰寫咗對於未來嘅建議草案，每一組成員各自用不同嘅形式 嚟描述維基媒體九個層面嘅唔同風貌。喺度邀請中文維基媒體嘅社群成員閱讀、提供回饋（尤其呢份翻譯文件出自翻譯社，並唔係熟悉維基社群嘅譯者所翻譯，所以如果有誤譯或者錯譯，都請不吝指出）。以下針對九個工作組各自介紹一個較為大膽或者有趣嘅建議——

• 倡議工作工作組概述：喺未來遇到與開放知識相關嘅公共政策倡議嗰陣（例如網絡中立性、著作權的開放等），加強同國際社群嘅對話，甚至要建立一個全球社群「宣言」或者「意向書」，嚟定義邊啲公共政策嘅倡導工作係維基運動所支持、邊啲唔係。藉以加強社群對於公共政策倡導嘅參與與成功度。
• 能力建設工作組概述：喺未來希望能夠建議「能力建設」嘅新單位，俾志工嘅各種同維基相關嘅能力（好似係組織、募款、維基功能嘅教學、合作關係嘅拓展⋯⋯等種種能力）可以跨過語言同埋地域現有嘅鴻溝。
• 社群健康工作組概述：喺未來將會建立全球統一嘅維基平台行為準則，闡述維基所有計劃都唔可以容忍嘅行為（好似霸凌、歧視、人肉搜查、未經同意公開私隱）等，提升社群健康多元。
• 多樣性工作組概述：喺未來要所有嘅相關組織（例如各地分會、主題式組織、甚至用戶組）嘅領導層級都可以按照多元族群或者性別嘅背景比例嚟組成理監事或者聯絡人，以最低需要40%男性、40%女性、20%多元族群背景者為組成，如果達成唔到會有相對應的賞罰機制（例如，如果領導比例錯，將唔可以獲得維基的補助）
• 合作關係工作組概述：喺未來，呢個工作組認為要打造培訓合作關係能力嘅教學模組、俾好似喺紀錄建檔、標示啱嘅捐贈來源方⋯⋯同埋建立一個中央基礎設施， 從而令到合作關係可以有更好嘅交流。
• 產品與技術工作組概述：喺未來，令產品同技術相關嘅工作能夠更加從基金會去中心化咁分散出去，呢樣包括邀請更多社群嘅技術人員參與、打造「維基技術宣教團」用深入淺出嘅方式嚟介紹維基媒體計劃上相關嘅技術內涵；對於使用維基的第三方應用，都要花心力嚟開發（例如，依家已經有很多好似係Google Alexa、蘋果Siri等聲控助理用緊維基數據Wikidata呢個計劃，嚟訓練自己公司嘅聲控助理產品）未來運動要花更多心力響了解第三方開放之上。
• 資源分配工作組概述：工作組所講嘅「資源」指財務資源，但也都包括員工時間、能力同數據。喺未來，需要建立平權嘅資源分配系統。呢個工作組所理解嘅平權包含三點——（一）機會（例如利用系統同獲得資源）、（二）權力（例如就資源做出決策嘅能力、改變文化現況嘅能力）同（三）產出。
• 收入流工作組概述：喺未來，增加維基媒體運動財務收入嘅方式，可以透過「用API要收費」、「品牌授權（將產品標上維基商標販售後獲得權利金）」等方式獲取支持維基媒體運動永續運作嘅經費。
• 角色與責任工作組概述：喺未來，要將集中喺北營（發達國家）嘅決策權力分散俾更多非英語使用者、令決策機制更貼近社群，並建立一個全球認同嘅「憲章/章程」嚟作為未來的維基媒體組織治理基礎。

呢啲議題響其他社群都引起咗許多嘅討論，期待中文社群都有機會多方表達自己嘅想像。今次建議草案嘅收集期限為期兩週，我將會喺9月15日截止回饋俾策略核心團隊，歡迎在此之前大家有任何問題、意見，都不吝向我直接提出，或者喺此文後續發表，令九個工作組能夠及時獲得社群的回饋，令我哋向住更開放嘅人類知識總和前進！多謝。

--AINH (傾偈) 2019年9月3號 (二) 09:20 (UTC)（代LShangkuan (WMF)發文）

粵文維基嘅寒冬？

粵文維基由73000篇文去到74000篇文，總共用咗126日，平均每日增長唔夠8篇，表現係自2013年6月（22000到23000篇文）以嚟最差。呢度編者以香港人為主，唔知係咪受到近期反修例運動嘅社會氣氛打擊寫文興緻喇。其實睇粵維嘅人本嚟都唔少——自從Google響今年3月中疑似修改過演算法令粵維嘅結果更易出現之後，粵維每日平均瀏覽人次就由約莫8萬增加超過一倍到約莫18萬，可惜當睇文嘅人多咗，寫文嘅人反而無乜點多過。粵維呢個寒冬似乎唔易捱過。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年9月8號 (日) 14:08 (UTC)