Wikipedia:城市論壇

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歡迎嚟到城市論壇。呢一組頁面係用嚟討論有關技術問題、政策，同埋維基百科嘅運作，分成五個地方。

呢版唔係用嚟做討論。請用下面嘅表去搵出最適合嘅部份貼文，或者貼喺「雜項」部份。請喺有關嘅版度貼文時簽名同埋加上日期（用~~~~或者喺編輯工具列中撳一下簽名掣）。

城市論壇小節

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政策
監察
去討論現有同埋建議嘅政策

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技術
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去討論技術性問題。有關wiki軟件嘅臭蟲報告請用Phabricator

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提議
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去討論同政策無關嘅新提議。

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諗法實驗室
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喺貼俾社群之前提議討論諗法同埋嘗試搵有關問題嘅解決方法

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雜項
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去貼唔能夠符合任何類別嘅信息

一次過去睇城市論壇所有嘅部份

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唔使等到星期日嘅中午十二點，亦都唔使拎張飛，隨時隨地都可以嚟呢個論壇度討論維基百科嘅大小事情 [加]
呢個地方就好似一個熱廚房噉，當有人討論一啲議題嗰陣，呢個論壇係會搵嚟一啲嘉賓或者台下觀眾發言去改善佢哋嘅嘢。
其它幫手同埋討論位置
我想…… 去邊度
一次過瀏覽晒全部「城市討論」嘅議題 城市論壇 (全部)
知道點用維基百科 幫助櫃枱
查詢特定嘅事實（例如邊個係第一位教宗？） 詢問處
為某篇文章提出建設性嘅批評 同儕互評
幫手解決某一篇文章所引起嘅爭執或者投訴某用戶行為 請求意見
喺某篇文章加上您嘅評論 文章嘅對話頁
睇其他維基媒體嘅計劃 元維基
知道點樣喺一本書或雜誌度引用維基百科 引用維基百科
報告複製自維基百科內容嘅網站 鏡像同埋分叉


呢個係城市論壇 (全部)嘅頁面，係會列出現時所有嘅討論以便閱讀。去城市論壇睇吓城市討論嘅部份，又或者撳吓喺每一個小節中嘅編輯連結去表達你嘅意見。要睇吓喺呢一頁嘅全部修訂，撳喺上面嘅歷史連結，並依照螢光幕上面嘅指示。

撳吓呢度去清除喺呢一頁嘅伺服器快取（去睇響城市討論部份嘅最近更改）


目錄

多過7日嘅討論（根據最後嘅評論）會被移到每個部份嘅分頁（叫做(小節名)/歸檔）。哩啲嘅討論會再喺嗰度保留7日。喺哩一段嘅時間嘅討論，如果可以嘅話，就可以移動到有關嘅對話頁。喺7日之後嘅討論會喺歸檔頁同埋主頁度刪除。佢哋之前嘅討論仍然可以喺佢哋嘅頁面歷史中搵到（可能會比較難搵到）但係唔可以搜尋到。

政策

EDP

（我從來都冇話照搬第d文嘅政策，從來都係參考。而主要參考嘅，當然係enwp、zhwp、jawp。所有咩維基精神，絕大部分都來自英文版。中文、日文用戶嘅文化、習慣相似，用戶多。但第d多人參與嘅維基百科當然亦可以參考。）

所有嘢都可以搬，唯獨是涉及EDP冇得搬。

EDP涉及版權。EDP來源係 https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy 。所有EDP都要求符合美國法例同本地維基內容主要訪問地法例，呢度即係香港同PRC法例。就香港而言，香港法例允許公平處理，類同其它普通法轄區，但緊過美國。

就本地採用嘅EDP而言，長時間以來寫明係「similar to enwiki and zhwiki」，本地條文係照抄zhwp嘅。zhwp嘅，我睇同enwp嘅冇分別。所以本地EDP有十項要求。每一項依據EDP嘅聲請，都要符合。有d要求涉及本地使用方式，所以第d文點樣用同一個檔案，同本地完全無關。

要保留檔案，舉證責任在提出保留一方，要講點解符合要求。

（呢d嘢咁基本，有晒政策，但原來冇乜人跟。我姑且提一勻，懶得再反反複複單獨講。）

唔明嘅可以討論，可以自己去睇指引。搞事嘅請過主。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月11號 (一) 05:01 (UTC)

建議盡快制定本地准入規則

近期某用戶發動嘅「大規模鏟走中國大陸村級地名」運動，再一次將粵維缺乏本地規則，嚴重依賴其他語言嘅百科嘅規則嘅困境暴露無遺。早期粵維最活躍嘅用戶同管理員大多出身英維，受到嗰邊嘅文化影響好深，因此認為「與其嘥時間制定規則，不如將啲時間用來寫文章」。但係我可以拍著心口同各位講：爾種諗法已經過澌時。

如果梵蒂岡都可以決定唔再自動採納意大利法律嘅話，點解粵維就唔可以決定唔再參照英維規矩？英維嘅規矩係針對英維制定嘅，喺制定嘅時候根本唔會考慮其他百科嘅需求，因此有啲規矩唔適合粵維係亙（gäng¹⁵）嘅。就拿類:香港私人樓為例，爾啲樓盤喺英維係肯定過唔到知名度爾關嘅，如果唔係粵維嘅本地規則有「粵地豁免」爾條嘅話，爾啲文章就算每篇有成百條參考都留唔低。另一方面，大維基一樣有收錄本族語區細地方嘅慣例，以法維嘅《法國海外領地城鎮一覽》為例，由人口大概14萬7千嘅留尼旺聖德尼到人口唔到一百嘅法屬圭亞那聖以利亞都有收錄。唔順超法維嘅可以睇埋英維嘅《懷俄明州城市一覽》，一樣係細到得4個長期居民嘅村仔都收。

歡迎各位回應（發動「大規模鏟走中國大陸村級地名」運動嗰個用戶除外）。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月22號 (五) 20:09 (UTC)

  • 本地嘅WP:SPEEDY可以適當因應情況作出修訂，建議針對長期而頻密遞交大量刪除請求或做大量刪改嘅單一動作追加限制條款，同埋加入更多嘅提刪審查（討論）時間嘅要求，以防止相關機制畀濫用。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年2月23號 (六) 08:36 (UTC)

建議修改本地WP:SPEEDY

具體修改如下：

  • 「任何文章（即係淨係適用於百科全書文章，其他頁例如用戶頁、計劃頁等等唔啱用）如果有以下任何一個問題」修訂為「任何文章（即係淨係適用於百科全書文章，其他頁例如用戶頁、計劃頁、搞清楚頁等等唔啱用）如果有以下任何一個問題」；
  • 將「無根據」同「唔出名」改為要經過WP:刪文討論刪除嘅情況；
  • 「例如搬完頁之後淨返個冇用嘅跳轉」修訂為「例如搬完頁之後淨返個冇用嘅跳轉，或者無任何內容嘅跳轉討論頁」；
  • 「例如全頁都係超連結」改為「例如全頁都係連去出面網頁嘅超連結」；
  • 喺以上爾條下面加入「有超過一條藍鏈嘅搞清楚頁唔受爾條規矩限制」；
  • 喺規則最後加入「一事不再理」條款：
  • 如果管理員判定某一版唔適合快速刪除嘅話，任何用戶喺366日之內都唔可以就同一版再提第二次快速刪除；
  • 如果管理員喺WP:刪文討論道判定某一版唔應該刪除嘅話，任何用戶都唔可以再就同一版提出快速刪除。

歡迎各位回應（發動「大規模鏟走中國大陸村級地名」運動嗰個用戶除外）。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月23號 (六) 18:32 (UTC)

  • 我傾向支持拎走「無根據」同「唔出名」、支持「例如全頁都係超連結」改做「例如全頁都係連去出面網頁嘅超連結」。咁改之後，搞清楚版應該唔使分開處理。@Cedric tsan cantonais：其實「超過一條藍鏈」呢部分應該加入去WP:搞清楚指引。至於後尾嗰兩條「一事不再理」，我諗可以寫喺底，講清楚有爭議嘅嘢就唔應該拎嚟即刪(因為管理員覺得有爭議通常唔會即刪)。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月24號 (日) 17:02 (UTC)

Wikipedia:標題習慣對地名嘅規定同粵維實際慣例唔同

最近留意到有人開臺灣政區文，全部都加「鄉」、「鎮」政區單位後綴（例如「頭屋鄉」而唔係「頭屋」）；但我印象中粵維習慣係「無撞名就唔加後綴」（例如「肇慶」、「懷集」，而唔係「肇慶市」、「懷集縣」）。本來我翻查Wikipedia:標題習慣想證明呢個慣例，但Wikipedia:標題習慣居然係規定『喺中國大陸嘅行政區嗰度，都要加返「省」、「市」、「區」、「縣」（內蒙古有部分地方用「旗」）嘅全名。......而臺灣嗰度就要加返「市」、「區」、「縣」嘅全名。』，如果要嚴格執行呢個規矩，閒閒地應該有幾百篇文都要改名。唔知大家覺得加唔加後綴好呢？--Jason6698 (傾偈) 2019年3月5號 (二) 15:47 (UTC)

  • 基於歷史講政區本身有變動多樣，會有唔少含義同討論空間，建議修訂本地WP:NC#PLACE開頭嘅部分，如下：
  • 大中華大陸（與港澳臺）
    • 喺中國大陸嘅範圍內，屬於兩粵、海南等粵屬地區嘅地頭，標題唔使一定要顯示政區級數，只要內文可以標識清楚當其時嘅「省」、「市」、「區」、「縣」等嘅劃定，其他地域嘅參照前述，如撞到似內蒙古用「旗」等特殊地名劃定，標題度最好顯示埋以便識別呢類特殊地方。
      （舉例（粵區）：廣東、廣西、珠海、越秀、義烏、新豐）
    • 喺港澳度嘅地頭，亦唔使標題度顯示政區級數。
      （舉例：荃灣、尖沙咀、氹仔）
    • 而臺灣度嘅地頭，標題可參照上述編輯。不過注意，凡係遇到正式記錄文件寫嘅特殊地名用到「臺」字嘅，就一定用返呢個「臺」。唔係嘅話，就轉用「台」。
      （舉例：臺北市、桃園縣）

——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 02:59 (UTC)

  • 同意「無撞名就唔加後綴」原則同 Longway 嘅修訂提議。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年3月7號 (四) 17:41 (UTC)
有後綴嘅多數都係講返有關嘅政區，冇後綴嘅多數都係指地埋上面嘅區域。好似香港嘅觀塘、觀塘區、荃灣、荃灣區、大埔、大埔區、沙田同埋沙田區等會有各自嘅意思，睇吓佢係講緊邊樣。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年3月8號 (五) 01:17 (UTC)
可以明確分到觀塘、觀塘區寫兩篇文只係少數例子，但多數情況都好難分得開，譬如廣州同廣州市無理由拆開兩篇寫。我基本上都同意粵維沿用已久嘅慣例：「無撞名就唔加後綴」，不過去到邊個層次可能要再研究，省、市、縣應該就無乜爭議，但去到鄉、鎮、村、街道呢啲層次又係咪照省略後綴呢？查實粵維似乎一直以嚟都無認真傾過。況且呢篇Wikipedia:標題習慣完全係「霸王硬上弓」，未有討論過就被列做指引。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年3月10號 (日) 09:46 (UTC)

討論咗個幾月，大家原則上都同意應該跟粵維實際慣例修訂Wikipedia:標題習慣條文，所以已經以Longway22整理嘅內容做基礎更新咗一稿。如果有條文仍有爭議，可以攞出嚟繼續傾。--Jason6698 (傾偈) 2019年4月19號 (五) 02:59 (UTC)

唔該晒Jason6698。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月24號 (三) 13:44 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Newarticletext

MediaWiki:Newarticletext，改改佢啦不如？--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月15號 (五) 08:56 (UTC)

有咩提議？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年3月28號 (四) 15:33 (UTC)
整咗喇，睇吓有冇特別嘅問題？ Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年3月29號 (五) 02:08 (UTC)
針對special:permalink/855483嘅提議：尾後句話錯晒啦掛，改成「維基百科賣廣告。文章隨便自我宣傳，宣傳自己、朋友、公司或出品，亂鳩咁寫都保存。」就差唔多。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月29號 (五) 12:25 (UTC)
一大堆紅字，重差過舊陣時，一係就全部開返版，一係就索性唔好提：
--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年3月31號 (日) 13:43 (UTC)
我將兩條紅拎換走咗，改提Wikipedia:風格指南。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月1號 (一) 11:12 (UTC)

反對實際上係錯別字嘅偽本字政策，反對將修正錯別字行爲定義作「無建設性嘅編輯」

長期佔據粵語維基百科、粵語維基字典等項目嘅User:Cedric_tsan_cantonais(殘陽孤侠)回退咗我喺粵語音系條目度改正咗嘅錯別字，尤其是將「徂」字改番做「咗」字，聲稱：「粵維百科喺好耐之前已經有徂慣例：用本字定用借字由寫嘅人自己決定；純粹將本字改為借字，或者純粹將借字改為本字，都視為無建設性嘅編輯。」

但係第一，「徂」字根本唔係「咗」字嘅本字，話佢係「本字」呢個講法根本係大話，係無中生有咁屈出嚟嘅。將「徂」字當「咗」字用，只係錯別字，完全同本字無關。明明係錯別字，卻要造假講大話偽稱「本字」，霸地盤噉佔據住唔畀人改，將粵語維基當成係「錯別字生根基地」，擾亂正常語文。居然將改正錯別字嘅行為，定義做「無建設性嘅編輯」，真係指鹿為馬到極！

第二，就算一個字係後起字，或者係通假借番嚟嘅字，唔等於唔應該用，相反，文字自然噉發展，往往有其原因，用後起嘅字往往可以分化本字嘅義項，減少歧義。如果粵語維基真係用真正嘅「本字」做方針，係噉唔該唔好再寫「喜悅」，要改為「喜說」；唔好再寫「間諜」，要改為「閒諜」；唔好再寫「右」字，要改為「又」字。如果大家睇得出有咩唔合理，係噉同一道理，就唔應該用任何藉口高舉所謂「本字」。-Cangjie6 (傾偈) 2019年3月21號 (四) 07:14 (UTC)

有嘢獻世，睇到笑下未算咯。彭志銘之流嘅偽作，喺香港d網上討論區已經臭晒，都冇人會學。就算唔知輿論，就算冇學過語言學，單從實證角度檢視，d偽作嘅文獻同論述錯漏百出。偏偏冤豬頭都有盟鼻菩薩。我初喺呢度寫嘢經已睇到d偽本字，但yuewp連偽文都難以處理，偽本字偽文法要刪就更加艱難啦。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月26號 (二) 16:24 (UTC)
「咗」本字係乜，未有定論，上網查下，有其他如「着」同「昨」。若要本字，「着」字易過「徂」字。又或者，更古之時，大家古音古義同源，後再分化。
本字又唔係無，如「佢」字，無論南朝北朝都有用「渠」字，廣東話用合口韻嘅渠，屬北朝系。你字，廣東話用北朝系嘅你（爾）字，而唔用南朝系嘅汝字。依個唐宋時大量北方移民，遷入嶺南之佐證。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年3月27號 (三) 00:20 (UTC)
粵語關注團體「港語學」對偽本字嘅論述：[1]。指出一啲流行「粵語本字」嘅錯誤，例如「呢」唔係「爾」，同埋「本字」嘅虚惘。
一個粵語百科或者粵語詞典，可以無視一啲著名相關團體或語言學人士嘅論述，隨便宣稱某啲錯別字做「本字」，實屬反智。Cangjie6 (傾偈) 2019年3月27號 (三) 04:26 (UTC)
入去望下，篇文話反本字，叫人唔好理本字。咁又要本字做乜？HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年3月27號 (三) 09:01 (UTC)

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技術

Correct title悖論

用Template:Correct title嘅文，改文嗰陣有提示： Display title "xxxxxx" was ignored since it is not equivalent to the page's actual title. 。點解要ignore呢？若果Display title同page's actual title一樣，使鬼用Template:Correct title咩？--Johnarkeung (傾偈) 2019年1月5號 (六) 11:45 (UTC)

嗰幾版有個『#』號喺裏面，嗰個符號用唔到做標題名，所以就會用到上面所提及到嘅模。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年1月5號 (六) 16:36 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

  • RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [2]
  • Advanced item MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [3]
  • Advanced item codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [4]
  • Advanced item On several wikis, an account named "濫用過濾器" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

  • Advanced item In AbuseFilter, the "控頻" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [5]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

  • Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

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2019年1月7號 (一) 18:30 (UTC)

FileExporter beta feature

Coming soon: the beta feature FileExporter

A new beta feature will soon be released on all wikis: The FileExporter. It allows exports of files from a local wiki to Wikimedia Commons, including their file history and page history. Which files can be exported is defined by each wiki's community: Please check your wiki's configuration file if you want to use this feature.

The FileExporter has already been a beta feature on mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP and on wikisource.org. After some functionality was added, it's now becoming a beta feature on all wikis. Deployment is planned for January 16. More information can be found on the project page.

As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test the FileExporter, please activate it in your user preferences. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 2019年1月14號 (一) 09:42 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-03

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

  • 你而家可以喺内容翻譯架生度用Google翻譯。 [6][7]
  • You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
  • 以前，括住嘅HTML屬性後面要有個空格。而家唔駛嘞，亦即係話就算你無改到某部分嘅内容，儲存咗之後嗰樣都可能會有唔同。 [8][9]
  • 高級項目 Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [10]

問題

  • When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [11]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

  • You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
  • Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [12]
  • 高級項目 2016年起唔建議再用嘅濫用過濾器變數minor_edit經已停用，唔會用得到。你可以喺Special:AbuseFilter度搵重用緊呢個變數嘅過濾器，兼且整返好佢哋。
  • 週期性項目 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺1月15號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺1月16號升級。其餘wiki會喺1月17號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

遲啲嘅更新

  • 高級項目 In the future users can be blocked from editing a page or a namespace. What a "block" means will change. This means that you might have to update tools you maintain that handle blocks. [13]

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年1月14號 (一) 17:55 (UTC)

FileExporter (搬舊相去維基同享)

由今日開始，只要去「測試功能」開 FileExporter，就可以將自由圖直接掟去維基同享喇！

--翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年1月16號 (三) 16:40 (UTC)

有問題嘅話請搵 User:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)，唔該！ (Bitte fragt Johanna, wenn ihr Probleme mit FileExporter habt :)) 翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年1月16號 (三) 16:42 (UTC)
Please add your feedback to the central feedback page, so we don't overlook anything: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:FileImporter. See you there! :) -- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (傾偈) 2019年1月17號 (四) 09:02 (UTC)

No editing for 30 minutes on 17 January

You will not be able to edit the wikis for up to 30 minutes on 17 January 07:00 UTC. This is because of a database problem that has to be fixed immediately. You can still read the wikis. Some wikis are not affected. They don't get this message. You can see which wikis are not affected on this page. Most wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

2019年1月16號 (三) 18:55 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

技術新聞

  • 受MassMessage嘅問題影響，有啲人收唔到上個禮拜嘅技術新聞。如果你收唔到上個禮拜嘅新聞，你可以去維基元度睇。 [14]

最近更新

問題

  • 用即見編輯器改模嘅時候，有時候會變成一行過，搞到其他用源碼編輯器嘅用戶睇得好唔舒服，亦都搞到睇兩個編輯中間嘅差異好難。呢個問題影響咗喺1月8號至17號期間嘅改動。呢個問題而家整返好咗。 [15]
  • MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [16][17]
  • 因為有個要即刻整嘅數據庫問題，1月17號 (UTC)有幾分鐘喺絕大部分wiki度改唔到嘢。家下經已整返好。 [18]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

  • 你可以喺模組namespace度用TemplateStyles。 [19]
  • 週期性項目 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺1月22號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺1月23號升級。其餘wiki會喺1月24號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年1月21號 (一) 20:33 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-05

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

問題

  • When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed. [20]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

  • 今個禮拜無新MediaWiki版本。

會議

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年1月28號 (一) 18:15 (UTC)

Filter走火

開篇文有「系列」兩字，都誤中黑名單項：「.*列表*」。--Ccviewtv (傾偈) 2019年2月2號 (六) 11:42 (UTC)

可唔可以用左邊個「電郵畀呢個用戶」send 段走火嘅源碼俾我跟進下？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月3號 (日) 23:00 (UTC)
我可能表達得唔清楚，而家凡親標題有「系列」兩字嘅文都唔畀開，好容易試到：「系列」一開版已經話中黑名單（如果你個admin權override個黑名單，你可以登出試試），我估原意應該係唔畀開「列表」，唔知點解實際連「系列」都封埋。--Ccviewtv (傾偈) 2019年2月9號 (六) 10:55 (UTC)
唔該晒。我執返靚個 RegEx，而家應該可以有「系列」。[21] --翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月9號 (六) 14:05 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [22]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 February. It will be on all wikis from 7 February (calendar).

Meetings

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2019年2月4號 (一) 17:12 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can use the ambox CSS class to show page issues to mobile readers. When you use ambox there are classes you can use.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 February. It will be on all wikis from 14 February (calendar).

Meetings

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2019年2月11號 (一) 18:46 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [23]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback. [24]

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2019年2月18號 (一) 23:14 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking

"icon depicting two speech Bubbles"

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

  1. First, sign up your group here.
  2. Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
  3. Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
    1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
    2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
    3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
    4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
    5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
  4. Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 2019年2月21號 (四) 15:01 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

  • When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [26]
  • 週期性項目 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺2月26號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺2月27號升級。其餘wiki會喺2月28號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

遲啲嘅更新

  • The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年2月25號 (一) 21:17 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You can give feedback on the future of talk pages.
  • The mobile website will use the standard fonts on your computer or phone instead of a generic font. This will make it easier to read text in many scripts. [27][28]

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2019年3月4號 (一) 16:38 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
  • Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed. [29]
  • Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed. [30][31]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年3月11號 (一) 19:29 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-12

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

  • When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March. [32][33]
  • 週期性項目 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺3月19號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺3月20號升級。其餘wiki會喺3月21號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

遲啲嘅更新

  • 管理員將會可以封鎖某個用戶，唔畀佢改某啲版或者係某個空間名。呢個功能已經可以喺幾個維基媒體wiki度用得。你可以喺度知多啲。如果你嘅wiki想幫手測試呢項功能，你可以話畀啲開發人員聽。 [34]
  • 高級項目 Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年3月18號 (一) 19:44 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version. [35]

Problems

  • There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed. [36]
  • The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon. [37]
  • Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them. [38]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年3月25號 (一) 18:05 (UTC)

一鍵反轉新功能

一鍵反轉 (rollback) 而家多咗個喜好設定，可以變成二鍵反轉，想開嘅話請去 Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering 揀呢個選項。呢個選擇出現嘅原因，係德文維基百科唔少管理員投訴「反轉」擺喺「多謝」隔籬，好易撳錯掣。(meta:WMDE Technical Wishes/Rollback/Feedback round) 翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月1號 (一) 11:04 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • Notifications tell you about things that happen on the wiki. You can turn on notifications about new links to pages you created. For performance reasons you can no longer get e-mails about this. [39]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年4月1號 (一) 16:29 (UTC)

點樣用wikidata嘅嘢落文章度

有格式嘅嘢，可以唔使寫出來，只要連得啱，就應該可以自動顯示。例如。

  • 有座標，係咪可以自動顯示呢？咁就唔使特登搞。
  • 有連去圖片分類，咁會自動掛模去分類。
  • 自動生物分類又係咪可行呢？

呢啲嘢爭議較少，又唔使再浪費人力。若果得嘅話，無論寫文定協作，大家都做得有效好多。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年4月7號 (日) 02:21 (UTC)

座標有關嘅應該用{{#property:Pnnn}}就得，可以睇返我之前開過嘅309咤叱系列文章做參攷。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年4月8號 (一) 03:28 (UTC)

建議將<center><center>錯誤放落過濾器

中文維基嗰邊唔知點解好興用「<center><center>」去置中，但呢種語法係錯嘅，皆因無咗end tag（</center>），會觸發Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag（雖然有大把未清理，不過最好盡量避免增加落去）。有啲人參考中文維基寫文，就好易將錯誤帶埋過嚟，要人執手尾。為免中文維基嘅歪風入侵，建議響過濾器加條規則，阻止用戶加入「<center><center>」。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年4月7號 (日) 15:35 (UTC)

加咗入去31號過濾器度，暫時針對住<center>標籤應對，只做警告提醒，睇吓仲有冇其它有關嘅標籤。如果情況未有改善嘅話，可以再收緊佢唔俾保存。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年4月8號 (一) 01:47 (UTC)

Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April

You will not be able to edit most Wikimedia wikis for up to 30 minutes on 11 April 05:00 UTC. This is because of a hardware problem. You can still read the wikis. You can see which wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

2019年4月8號 (一) 10:57 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis. [42]
  • A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back. [43]
  • Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed. [44]

Changes later this week

  • When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site. [45]
  • The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more. [46]
  • Advanced item The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return "" (empty string). When you read a page it will return "-" (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces. [47]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia. [48][49]
  • Advanced item The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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2019年4月8號 (一) 18:24 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request

請幫手去譯做你嘅語言

The Wikimedia Foundation has published a Medium-Term Plan proposal covering the next 3–5 years. We want your feedback! Please leave all comments and questions, in any language, on the talk page, by April 20. 多謝！ Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 2019年4月12號 (五) 17:35 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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2019年4月15號 (一) 23:00 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook. [52][53][54]
  • The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version. [55]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Wikipedia articles will have the sameAs meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test. [56][57]

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2019年4月23號 (二) 19:08 (UTC)


提議

日本足球員

用個bot flag戶頭用AWB處理special:search/insource:PAGENAME incategory:日本足球員。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年1月18號 (五) 06:09 (UTC)

可唔可以解釋下有咩錯要改？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年1月18號 (五) 18:41 (UTC)
{{subst:PAGENAME}}？--Hello903hello·傾偈 2019年2月4號 (一) 01:22 (UTC)

應該統一「蔴雀」叫法

主文叫「蔴雀」，分類叫「麻雀」，有啲文個名用「蔴雀」，有啲用「麻雀」，搞到好鬼亂，建議統一用其中一個。（如果揀「麻雀」，「蔴雀」可以考慮搬去「麻雀 (遊戲)」）。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年2月10號 (日) 14:04 (UTC)

推英機

首先講明下：「推英機」爾個詞係我基於「推普機」發明嘅。

最近喺法維嗰邊發生徂件都幾好笑下嘅事：有個英維用戶（用戶名以007+1結尾）趯徂過去法維改嘢，同幾個當地用戶就文章格式發生徂爭執。今次爭執嘅內容唔係我要講嘅重點，我要講嘅重點係：爾個英維用戶堅持要喺法維講英文，法維管理員Azurfrog同個英維用戶解釋徂「係法維講法文係成文規例」，個英維用戶依然我行我素，唔單止連Google翻譯都唔肯用下，重擺出一副「我係英維活躍用戶我大澌」嘅姿態，調返轉頭來指責法維嘅當地用戶歧視佢，話佢等喺法維用法文係「expresses a sense of nationalistic superiority」（「刷民族至上主義感」）。

驟眼睇落大家可能會一笑置之，但係諗深一層大家就會意識到一樣嘢：法維係文章數量排行第五嘅維基百科，有相當完善嘅當地規例，恁都一樣有推英機過去踩場。好似我等粵維恁樣嘅細百科，連規例都要依賴英維，甚至連「喺粵維要講粵語」爾條規則都無，如果有推英機過來踩場，打死都唔肯講粵語嘅話，我等又應該點做？【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月11號 (一) 05:42 (UTC)

香港嘅flagicon

香港嘅flagiconFlag of Hong Kong.svg係1997年回歸之後嘅洋紫荊，似乎唔係好適合一啲九七之前嘅條目（例如1963年港產片工廠少爺 (1963年)）。請問可唔可以整一個港英時期嘅flagicon呢？--定格流星 (傾偈) 2019年2月19號 (二) 08:37 (UTC)

{{HKG-1959}}？--219.77.70.229（討論） 2019年2月19號 (二) 10:01 (UTC)

諗法實驗室

雜項

差館/警署

我贊成Category:警署搬去差館。但係我認為Category:香港差館底下旺角差館同深水埗差館應該搬返去警署，因為呢個係而家嘅正式名。第日有任何文章歸落差館類都好，該叫咩就咩，警察局/派出所/警察廳都好，唔需要劃一改名做差館。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年1月1號 (二) 00:43 (UTC)

Portal:臺灣時人時事定係Portal:時人時事/臺灣

香港嘅時人時事叫Portal:時人時事/香港，中國大陸嘅時人時事叫Portal:時人時事/中國（我認為應該用「中國大陸」，不過唔係今次要討論嘅重點），但臺灣嘅時人時事叫Portal:臺灣時人時事而唔係Portal:時人時事/臺灣喎。我認為應該要統一返個格式，跟邊款我暫時無意見。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年1月6號 (日) 16:11 (UTC)

佢之前開版之後有人搞過wikidata嘅項目整亂晒，依家搬咗版，整返好；之前Portal:時人時事/台灣曾經存在過。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年1月7號 (一) 00:51 (UTC)

2018年最多人睇嘅文

多謝WMFLabs嘅Topviews引入用年做單位嘅排名，可以等大家回顧返舊年全年邊啲文最多人睇，結果已經整理到呢度。睇埋前年比較，可以見到湖南衛視嘅《歌手》系列節目連續兩年霸住做粵維最多人睇嘅文，瀏覽人次更加由前年近37萬升到舊年近79萬，贏第二名幾十條街。正如我之前提過，《歌手》呢類同粵語圈無乜關係嘅嘢，交畀國維嗰邊寫就最好，唔應該走去做粵維最多人睇嘅文。不過唔計《歌手》，粵維整體嚟講都係影視娛樂類型嘅文最吸引到人過嚟睇。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年1月13號 (日) 15:32 (UTC)

似乎《歌手》系列嘅文章嘅水份都仲係有好多噉，不過睇嚟計數度，載入一次就會計一次，改完一版保存之後又會再計一次？ Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年1月14號 (一) 00:56 (UTC)
有興趣嘅話，可以手機裝Wikipedia嘅APP，揀咗粵語後，會睇到有個每日熱文嘅欄目（數據計自前一日），然後就會發現，基本上各個語種維基啲人最多睇嘅都係啲娛樂類嘅嘢（粵語嘅，最常見係啲港星），偶爾因爲某啲節慶或者大事、新聞發生，就會有相應版面浮上頭。所以我覺得每年個榜都會差唔多。--S7w4j9 (傾偈) 2019年1月14號 (一) 05:45 (UTC)
講水份，《歌手2018》編輯次數確實高過其他文好多，但千幾次編輯，夾埋嘅水份頂盡咪一萬次瀏覽，但結果都係拋離第二名《蝕日風暴》63萬次瀏覽，所以唔可以單純用改得多去解釋。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年1月20號 (日) 12:37 (UTC)

病毒譯名

（我從來都唔認為音譯可分對錯，只有好壞，更莫論「病毒」。不過姑且遷就以下呢d譯法嘅始作俑者嘅習慣。）

  1. 寶華佐利
  2. 利揚省
  3. 利揚堂
  4. special:permalink/843943 （有d人名睇唔明？原文係en:special:permalink/593446014#History。）
  5. 洛他·馬臺斯
  6. 查爾斯·格比奇
  7. 巴素爾－繆侯燊－符賴堡歐洲機場
  8. 大高峰 (阿拉斯加)
  9. special:permalink/1052229
  10. zh:米夏埃爾·西爾伯鮑爾 （搭秤醒嘅）

今日年廿八，提住咁多先，但洗甩唔易。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月2號 (六) 14:52 (UTC)

用天安門廣場四君子之一嘅周舵喺2014年接受採訪嗰陣講嘅一句話來形容R大狀真係最適合不過：「只要跟我意見不同，就恨不得撲上去把人家掐死」。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月8號 (五) 01:20 (UTC)

冗長多餘嘅資料

Special:貢獻/Nttrouve新開嘅版，多數都包含冗長嘅巴士車型資料。我認為係多餘，頂櫳寫一兩句簡短交代有咩車廠足矣。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月2號 (六) 15:00 (UTC)

我覺得OK嘅，英維都有一堆巴士、火車公司文章，大半篇都係服務路線同埋車隊資料，只係對外部來源嘅要求嚴啲。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月3號 (日) 23:17 (UTC)

interesting read

en:special:permalink/882732807#A_frontal_non-free_image_because_we_only_have_a_profile, something so simple. Yet almost certainly never can one expect similarly rigorous inputs from this community.--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月11號 (一) 03:13 (UTC)

It took one minute for enwp to remove this EDP contravention. Here on yuewp, unfree files could remain unnoticed for 10+ years. Some newbie came along and took matters into his own hands. Still the files tagged for deletion are piling up for months. Who are the ones taking other people's efforts for granted?
If EDP is not enforced, local upload should not be enabled. If no one understands the EDP, how was it implemented in the first place? So far only one user contributed to the contents of the local EDP though. Perhaps this helps to explain this community's general oversight of non-free files.--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月11號 (一) 03:50 (UTC)

一d俗語

Special:貢獻/138.19.172.0/22，「只顯示開新版嘅編輯」。有d跳轉應該改成去維基辭典嘅soft redirect。我記低好耐，而家懶得理喇。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月19號 (二) 17:34 (UTC)

  • 一樣有問題嘅起碼仲有Category:粵字、Category:粵語詞匯。我認為理想做法係，喺維基辭典寫好佢。但「寫」太麻煩。喺粵文維基辭典，是但一樣可以機做嘅嘢都冇，全部要人手做，浪費人生。粵文維基辭典係注定失敗嘅項目，中短期內都冇乜希望。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月22號 (五) 18:50 (UTC)

投訴長期未處理

本年1月24號，我提出一項有關「自我宣傳」及「以謊言干擾維基百科」嘅投訴：special:diff/1260115，及後再作3次補充。4次修訂悉數被User:Deryck Chan刪除，日誌如下：

  1. special:redirect/logid/247977
  2. special:redirect/logid/248029
  3. special:redirect/logid/248030
  4. special:redirect/logid/248031

另外仲有一次威脅封鎖special:diff/1260285。

除此以外，該項投訴至今未有處理。我促請管理員處理該項投訴。

On 24 Jan 2019 I reported acts of self-promotion and disruption to Wikipedia. By the following day, 25 Jan, User:Deryck Chan has redacted all four relevant revisions (see logs above) and threatened me with a block on the grounds that I had violated privacy rules. It has been nearly a month, but the contents of my report remain unaddressed. Could any sysop please attend to this matter without further delay?--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月22號 (五) 22:02 (UTC)

Another two weeks went by and the contents of the four redacted revisions are still unaddressed. @Deryck Chan： If you or any other admin is not willing to handle the contents of the four redacted revisions, please restore the four revisions. Consider this the last chance to undo deletion before complaints on admin abuse and admin negligence are lodged.

我最後重申一次，請撤銷上述四項刪除日誌對應嘅刪除，除非刪除咗嘅投訴獲得處理。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 15:31 (UTC)

既然 Roy17「last chance」我，咁我講兩句。上面 Roy17 寫嘅係對我嘅投訴，用第三人稱寫，所以我收聲，等其他編者評論，但似乎未有其他人有興趣介入。我認為我以上收埋嗰幾次收改，做法符合Wikipedia:騷擾裡面唔准「展示有其他用戶個人資料嘅站內／站外網頁」嘅要求。如果你認為粵維社群處理唔到你嘅投訴嘅話，請自己向更高權威報告。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 15:44 (UTC)
I have repeatedly asserted in both Cantonese and English that my reports on "self-promotion and disruption to Wikipedia" should be addressed by "any sysop", regardless of the visibility of those four revisions. And I pinged Deryck Chan, who deleted the revisions, each time I made this request. Yet he continues to ignore it. His comment above is nothing but a mere repetition of his thinking behind his deletion, which he had written on my talk page. I do not need that.
Why does an admin delete the complaints without addressing them, even after repeatedly being urged to do so?--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 16:31 (UTC)

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