Wikipedia:城市論壇

歡迎嚟到城市論壇。呢一組頁面係用嚟討論有關技術問題、政策，同埋維基百科嘅運作，分成五個地方。

呢版唔係用嚟做討論。請用下面嘅表去搵出最適合嘅部份貼文，或者貼喺「雜項」部份。請喺有關嘅版度貼文時簽名同埋加上日期（用~~~~或者喺編輯工具列中撳一下簽名掣）。

城市論壇小節
政策 監察 去討論現有同埋建議嘅政策	技術 監察 去討論技術性問題。有關wiki軟件嘅臭蟲報告請用Phabricator	提議 監察 去討論同政策無關嘅新提議。	諗法實驗室 監察 喺貼俾社群之前提議討論諗法同埋嘗試搵有關問題嘅解決方法	雜項 監察 去貼唔能夠符合任何類別嘅信息
一次過去睇城市論壇所有嘅部份

唔使等到星期日嘅中午十二點，亦都唔使拎張飛，隨時隨地都可以嚟呢個論壇度討論維基百科嘅大小事情 [加]
呢個地方就好似一個熱廚房噉，當有人討論一啲議題嗰陣，呢個論壇係會搵嚟一啲嘉賓或者台下觀眾發言去改善佢哋嘅嘢。

其它幫手同埋討論位置

我想……					去邊度
一次過瀏覽晒全部「城市討論」嘅議題					城市論壇 (全部)
知道點用維基百科					幫助櫃枱
查詢特定嘅事實（例如邊個係第一位教宗？）					詢問處
為某篇文章提出建設性嘅批評					同儕互評
幫手解決某一篇文章所引起嘅爭執或者投訴某用戶行為					請求意見
喺某篇文章加上您嘅評論					文章嘅對話頁
睇其他維基媒體嘅計劃					元維基
知道點樣喺一本書或雜誌度引用維基百科					引用維基百科
報告複製自維基百科內容嘅網站					鏡像同埋分叉

呢個係城市論壇 (全部)嘅頁面，係會列出現時所有嘅討論以便閱讀。去城市論壇睇吓城市討論嘅部份，又或者撳吓喺每一個小節中嘅編輯連結去表達你嘅意見。要睇吓喺呢一頁嘅全部修訂，撳喺上面嘅歷史連結，並依照螢光幕上面嘅指示。

撳吓呢度去清除喺呢一頁嘅伺服器快取（去睇響城市討論部份嘅最近更改）

多過7日嘅討論（根據最後嘅評論）會被移到每個部份嘅分頁（叫做(小節名)/歸檔）。哩啲嘅討論會再喺嗰度保留7日。喺哩一段嘅時間嘅討論，如果可以嘅話，就可以移動到有關嘅對話頁。喺7日之後嘅討論會喺歸檔頁同埋主頁度刪除。佢哋之前嘅討論仍然可以喺佢哋嘅頁面歷史中搵到（可能會比較難搵到）但係唔可以搜尋到。

政策

EDP

（我從來都冇話照搬第d文嘅政策，從來都係參考。而主要參考嘅，當然係enwp、zhwp、jawp。所有咩維基精神，絕大部分都來自英文版。中文、日文用戶嘅文化、習慣相似，用戶多。但第d多人參與嘅維基百科當然亦可以參考。）

所有嘢都可以搬，唯獨是涉及EDP冇得搬。

EDP涉及版權。EDP來源係 https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy 。所有EDP都要求符合美國法例同本地維基內容主要訪問地法例，呢度即係香港同PRC法例。就香港而言，香港法例允許公平處理，類同其它普通法轄區，但緊過美國。

就本地採用嘅EDP而言，長時間以來寫明係「similar to enwiki and zhwiki」，本地條文係照抄zhwp嘅。zhwp嘅，我睇同enwp嘅冇分別。所以本地EDP有十項要求。每一項依據EDP嘅聲請，都要符合。有d要求涉及本地使用方式，所以第d文點樣用同一個檔案，同本地完全無關。

要保留檔案，舉證責任在提出保留一方，要講點解符合要求。

（呢d嘢咁基本，有晒政策，但原來冇乜人跟。我姑且提一勻，懶得再反反複複單獨講。）

唔明嘅可以討論，可以自己去睇指引。搞事嘅請過主。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月11號 (一) 05:01 (UTC)

建議盡快制定本地准入規則

近期某用戶發動嘅「大規模鏟走中國大陸村級地名」運動，再一次將粵維缺乏本地規則，嚴重依賴其他語言嘅百科嘅規則嘅困境暴露無遺。早期粵維最活躍嘅用戶同管理員大多出身英維，受到嗰邊嘅文化影響好深，因此認為「與其嘥時間制定規則，不如將啲時間用來寫文章」。但係我可以拍著心口同各位講：爾種諗法已經過澌時。

如果梵蒂岡都可以決定唔再自動採納意大利法律嘅話，點解粵維就唔可以決定唔再參照英維規矩？英維嘅規矩係針對英維制定嘅，喺制定嘅時候根本唔會考慮其他百科嘅需求，因此有啲規矩唔適合粵維係亙（gäng¹⁵）嘅。就拿類:香港私人樓為例，爾啲樓盤喺英維係肯定過唔到知名度爾關嘅，如果唔係粵維嘅本地規則有「粵地豁免」爾條嘅話，爾啲文章就算每篇有成百條參考都留唔低。另一方面，大維基一樣有收錄本族語區細地方嘅慣例，以法維嘅《法國海外領地城鎮一覽》為例，由人口大概14萬7千嘅留尼旺聖德尼到人口唔到一百嘅法屬圭亞那聖以利亞都有收錄。唔順超法維嘅可以睇埋英維嘅《懷俄明州城市一覽》，一樣係細到得4個長期居民嘅村仔都收。

歡迎各位回應（發動「大規模鏟走中國大陸村級地名」運動嗰個用戶除外）。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月22號 (五) 20:09 (UTC)

• 本地嘅WP:SPEEDY可以適當因應情況作出修訂，建議針對長期而頻密遞交大量刪除請求或做大量刪改嘅單一動作追加限制條款，同埋加入更多嘅提刪審查（討論）時間嘅要求，以防止相關機制畀濫用。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年2月23號 (六) 08:36 (UTC)

建議修改本地WP:SPEEDY

具體修改如下：

• 「任何文章（即係淨係適用於百科全書文章，其他頁例如用戶頁、計劃頁等等唔啱用）如果有以下任何一個問題」修訂為「任何文章（即係淨係適用於百科全書文章，其他頁例如用戶頁、計劃頁、搞清楚頁等等唔啱用）如果有以下任何一個問題」；
• 將「無根據」同「唔出名」改為要經過WP:刪文討論刪除嘅情況；
• 「例如搬完頁之後淨返個冇用嘅跳轉」修訂為「例如搬完頁之後淨返個冇用嘅跳轉，或者無任何內容嘅跳轉討論頁」；
• 「例如全頁都係超連結」改為「例如全頁都係連去出面網頁嘅超連結」；
• 喺以上爾條下面加入「有超過一條藍鏈嘅搞清楚頁唔受爾條規矩限制」；
• 喺規則最後加入「一事不再理」條款：

• 如果管理員判定某一版唔適合快速刪除嘅話，任何用戶喺366日之內都唔可以就同一版再提第二次快速刪除；
• 如果管理員喺WP:刪文討論道判定某一版唔應該刪除嘅話，任何用戶都唔可以再就同一版提出快速刪除。

歡迎各位回應（發動「大規模鏟走中國大陸村級地名」運動嗰個用戶除外）。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月23號 (六) 18:32 (UTC)

• 我傾向支持拎走「無根據」同「唔出名」、支持「例如全頁都係超連結」改做「例如全頁都係連去出面網頁嘅超連結」。咁改之後，搞清楚版應該唔使分開處理。@Cedric tsan cantonais：其實「超過一條藍鏈」呢部分應該加入去WP:搞清楚指引。至於後尾嗰兩條「一事不再理」，我諗可以寫喺底，講清楚有爭議嘅嘢就唔應該拎嚟即刪(因為管理員覺得有爭議通常唔會即刪)。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月24號 (日) 17:02 (UTC)
  • 冇人反對，改咗。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月30號 (二) 23:38 (UTC)

Wikipedia:標題習慣對地名嘅規定同粵維實際慣例唔同

最近留意到有人開臺灣政區文，全部都加「鄉」、「鎮」政區單位後綴（例如「頭屋鄉」而唔係「頭屋」）；但我印象中粵維習慣係「無撞名就唔加後綴」（例如「肇慶」、「懷集」，而唔係「肇慶市」、「懷集縣」）。本來我翻查Wikipedia:標題習慣想證明呢個慣例，但Wikipedia:標題習慣居然係規定『喺中國大陸嘅行政區嗰度，都要加返「省」、「市」、「區」、「縣」（內蒙古有部分地方用「旗」）嘅全名。......而臺灣嗰度就要加返「市」、「區」、「縣」嘅全名。』，如果要嚴格執行呢個規矩，閒閒地應該有幾百篇文都要改名。唔知大家覺得加唔加後綴好呢？--Jason6698 (傾偈) 2019年3月5號 (二) 15:47 (UTC)

• 基於歷史講政區本身有變動多樣，會有唔少含義同討論空間，建議修訂本地WP:NC#PLACE開頭嘅部分，如下：
• 大中華大陸（與港澳臺）
  • 喺中國大陸嘅範圍內，屬於兩粵、海南等粵屬地區嘅地頭，標題唔使一定要顯示政區級數，只要內文可以標識清楚當其時嘅「省」、「市」、「區」、「縣」等嘅劃定，其他地域嘅參照前述，如撞到似內蒙古用「旗」等特殊地名劃定，標題度最好顯示埋以便識別呢類特殊地方。

    （舉例（粵區）：廣東、廣西、珠海、越秀、義烏、新豐）

  • 喺港澳度嘅地頭，亦唔使標題度顯示政區級數。

    （舉例：荃灣、尖沙咀、氹仔）

  • 而臺灣度嘅地頭，標題可參照上述編輯。不過注意，凡係遇到正式記錄文件寫嘅特殊地名用到「臺」字嘅，就一定用返呢個「臺」。唔係嘅話，就轉用「台」。

    （舉例：臺北市、桃園縣）

——Longway22 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 02:59 (UTC)

• 同意「無撞名就唔加後綴」原則同 Longway 嘅修訂提議。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年3月7號 (四) 17:41 (UTC)

有後綴嘅多數都係講返有關嘅政區，冇後綴嘅多數都係指地埋上面嘅區域。好似香港嘅觀塘、觀塘區、荃灣、荃灣區、大埔、大埔區、沙田同埋沙田區等會有各自嘅意思，睇吓佢係講緊邊樣。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年3月8號 (五) 01:17 (UTC)

可以明確分到觀塘、觀塘區寫兩篇文只係少數例子，但多數情況都好難分得開，譬如廣州同廣州市無理由拆開兩篇寫。我基本上都同意粵維沿用已久嘅慣例：「無撞名就唔加後綴」，不過去到邊個層次可能要再研究，省、市、縣應該就無乜爭議，但去到鄉、鎮、村、街道呢啲層次又係咪照省略後綴呢？查實粵維似乎一直以嚟都無認真傾過。況且呢篇Wikipedia:標題習慣完全係「霸王硬上弓」，未有討論過就被列做指引。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年3月10號 (日) 09:46 (UTC)

討論咗個幾月，大家原則上都同意應該跟粵維實際慣例修訂Wikipedia:標題習慣條文，所以已經以Longway22整理嘅內容做基礎更新咗一稿。如果有條文仍有爭議，可以攞出嚟繼續傾。--Jason6698 (傾偈) 2019年4月19號 (五) 02:59 (UTC)

唔該晒Jason6698。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月24號 (三) 13:44 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Newarticletext

MediaWiki:Newarticletext，改改佢啦不如？--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月15號 (五) 08:56 (UTC)

有咩提議？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年3月28號 (四) 15:33 (UTC)

整咗喇，睇吓有冇特別嘅問題？ Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年3月29號 (五) 02:08 (UTC)

針對special:permalink/855483嘅提議：尾後句話錯晒啦掛，改成「維基百科賣廣告。文章隨便自我宣傳，宣傳自己、朋友、公司或出品，亂鳩咁寫都保存。」就差唔多。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月29號 (五) 12:25 (UTC)

一大堆紅字，重差過舊陣時，一係就全部開返版，一係就索性唔好提：

• Wikipedia:你嘅第一篇文章
• Help:跳轉
• Wikipedia:文章精靈
• Wikipedia:引用來源
• Wikipedia:註明可靠來源
• Help:搬版

--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年3月31號 (日) 13:43 (UTC)

我將兩條紅拎換走咗，改提Wikipedia:風格指南。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月1號 (一) 11:12 (UTC)

反對實際上係錯別字嘅偽本字政策，反對將修正錯別字行爲定義作「無建設性嘅編輯」

長期佔據粵語維基百科、粵語維基字典等項目嘅User:Cedric_tsan_cantonais(殘陽孤侠)回退咗我喺粵語音系條目度改正咗嘅錯別字，尤其是將「徂」字改番做「咗」字，聲稱：「粵維百科喺好耐之前已經有徂慣例：用本字定用借字由寫嘅人自己決定；純粹將本字改為借字，或者純粹將借字改為本字，都視為無建設性嘅編輯。」

但係第一，「徂」字根本唔係「咗」字嘅本字，話佢係「本字」呢個講法根本係大話，係無中生有咁屈出嚟嘅。將「徂」字當「咗」字用，只係錯別字，完全同本字無關。明明係錯別字，卻要造假講大話偽稱「本字」，霸地盤噉佔據住唔畀人改，將粵語維基當成係「錯別字生根基地」，擾亂正常語文。居然將改正錯別字嘅行為，定義做「無建設性嘅編輯」，真係指鹿為馬到極！

第二，就算一個字係後起字，或者係通假借番嚟嘅字，唔等於唔應該用，相反，文字自然噉發展，往往有其原因，用後起嘅字往往可以分化本字嘅義項，減少歧義。如果粵語維基真係用真正嘅「本字」做方針，係噉唔該唔好再寫「喜悅」，要改為「喜說」；唔好再寫「間諜」，要改為「閒諜」；唔好再寫「右」字，要改為「又」字。如果大家睇得出有咩唔合理，係噉同一道理，就唔應該用任何藉口高舉所謂「本字」。-Cangjie6 (傾偈) 2019年3月21號 (四) 07:14 (UTC)

有嘢獻世，睇到笑下未算咯。彭志銘之流嘅偽作，喺香港d網上討論區已經臭晒，都冇人會學。就算唔知輿論，就算冇學過語言學，單從實證角度檢視，d偽作嘅文獻同論述錯漏百出。偏偏冤豬頭都有盟鼻菩薩。我初喺呢度寫嘢經已睇到d偽本字，但yuewp連偽文都難以處理，偽本字偽文法要刪就更加艱難啦。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月26號 (二) 16:24 (UTC)

「咗」本字係乜，未有定論，上網查下，有其他如「着」同「昨」。若要本字，「着」字易過「徂」字。又或者，更古之時，大家古音古義同源，後再分化。

本字又唔係無，如「佢」字，無論南朝北朝都有用「渠」字，廣東話用合口韻嘅渠，屬北朝系。你字，廣東話用北朝系嘅你（爾）字，而唔用南朝系嘅汝字。依個唐宋時大量北方移民，遷入嶺南之佐證。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年3月27號 (三) 00:20 (UTC)

粵語關注團體「港語學」對偽本字嘅論述：[1]。指出一啲流行「粵語本字」嘅錯誤，例如「呢」唔係「爾」，同埋「本字」嘅虚惘。

一個粵語百科或者粵語詞典，可以無視一啲著名相關團體或語言學人士嘅論述，隨便宣稱某啲錯別字做「本字」，實屬反智。Cangjie6 (傾偈) 2019年3月27號 (三) 04:26 (UTC)

入去望下，篇文話反本字，叫人唔好理本字。咁又要本字做乜？HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年3月27號 (三) 09:01 (UTC)

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百科成長低迷，理應改革，求維基友對策

本百科都開咗十二年幾，之但係都未上到十萬，得七成半，可謂成長低迷。廣東話都唔係咁弱雞，無理由咁樣。大家有乜見解同對策呢？

百科係二〇〇六年三月廿五號開嘅。到今接近有四千八百日。若要去到十萬，平均一日要開二十篇文多啲左右。按理唔係件咁難嘅事。睇返統計。近月每日睇嘅次數，約莫十五萬到二十萬次之間。若每部機計，約莫十二萬次左右。睇嘅人次都好多。而編寫方面，每日編寫人數，約有四五十人。而活躍編寫人數，約十零人左右。

由統計睇，睇嘅人好多，改嘅人都有咁上下，而開文嘅人就零零丁丁咁。係咪開文寫太苛刻，太難做？定係依家維基人，無興趣開文寫？定係無獎勵貢獻，而無人做呢？

百科要興旺，文係命脈所在。文量要多，題材要多，搜尋器先會搵到依度。文量對本百科都幾重要。如今就獻醜拋嚿磚出來討論，睇下可唔可行。

引人編寫，按次序有三方面。一，引多人來睇百科。二，畀人知道未有文，從而引到人開文。三，獎勵開文嘅人，想維基友多啲寫。由此有後述十幾項，供大家開個頭。

先由寫文講起

一。粵文百科，就算翻譯，行文要同中文百科有一定唔同，至少引言段要唔同。若果兩面嘅嘢一樣，人家都唔會想睇。

二。寫文順帶講埋英文點叫，有埋其他話更好，有埋點解咁起名更好。依個係其中一個熱門搜尋問題，亦係有趣味問題。有相關嘅字先有人來睇。

三。至少有一張圖。一來有圖先好睇。二來搜尋器搵圖，有機會來到依度。

四。寫文要有相當紅字連結，駁去開新文。無連結就無維基。唔好怕紅字唔好睇。紅字正正帶人開拓新領域。

五。若果新文寫嘅野唔多，有問題不如直改，好過掛模。有時間掛模不如出手改寫。咁鼓勵新人，唔係一味話人有問題。掛模本意係傾點做，唔傾實在唔應該掛模，唔多友善。

頭版要日日變

六。頭版內容，十年如一日，過於靜態。不如開排行榜，用程式自動排出內容。電話程式早就有排名，列出五篇當日最多人睇。頭版可以列十項最多人睇，多啲時代感。

七。頭版列出十條最想開嘅文。由程式計出來。若果開咗，就移走，換另一個。模入面嗰啲缺文，就唔好計。鼓勵人開文。

八。列出尋日有開文嘅維基友，咁當然有一定要求，有程式計算，以免亂開。依個係奬勵人開文。後面講。

九。列出尋日新文章，以十篇最長為準。以奬勵開文嘅人。後面講。

十。列出尋日擴寫文章。以十篇擴充最長為準。以奬勵人改好啲文。後面講。

維基友開文排名以作鼓勵

十一。有排名只計用戶名。希望人開戶做維基友，建立編寫社羣，多啲交流。

十二。目標人人日日開一篇。一日一篇個量較易做。一日開幾多篇都係計一次，唔係鬥多，只係養成寫文習慣。要電腦程式計算，唔經人手。準則如後。

甲。計段落文字，要有一百個唐字，唔計標點同符號。

乙。全文段落有至少五條連結。

丙。至少有一張圖。

丁。行文唔係直抄其他百科，唔得直抄唔改。亦唔係塗鴉。

戊。每日更新時間，世界協調時子夜十二點，相當於省港臺灣澳等地朝早八點鐘。

己。新文及格，落名係開文維基友個名。唔理幾多人改過。

更。排名純粹尋日開文達成先後。

十三。排名日日留底。鼓勵人持之而行。

㝷日新文章排名以作鼓勵

十四。開清單列出尋日新文章。十篇最長放頭版做奬勵，咁可以鼓勵人開文寫好啲。時間之類前面講咁。

十五。日日新鮮。維基友開文有人睇。又見到寫文趨勢。

尋日十大擴充文章作鼓勵

十六。鼓勵人擴充文章，充實內容。以字數增幅為準。如此用心改嘅嘢，亦上到頭版，畀到人睇。

咁樣頭版會更有用，維基友心血亦唔會埋沒。又畀維基友多啲參與感，新鮮感。盡量用機械人同程式，唔會做漏，唔使咁辛苦，效果又大。唔知大家點睇呢？

@WikiCantona、Deryck Chan、S7w4j9、Shinjiman、William915、Kowlooner、恐狼博士：
@Cedric tsan cantonais、Helpcanbepowerful、昏君、广州阿沾、SC96、PQ77wd、Roy17：

HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年4月30號 (二) 14:17 (UTC)

我接受咗挑戰，整咗呢件嘢出嚟：PAWS notebook; 成果。呢件嘢會自動攞最近 N=2 日開嘅文章，揀 M=10 篇嚟貼堂。為鼓勵多啲人貢獻，但唔鼓勵灌水，揀文嘅原則係：

• 列出最長 (計漢字數) 嘅文
• 如果有超過 M 個人有開文，噉每位編者限貼一篇堂
• 如果唔夠 M 個人有開文，噉每位編者會貼至少一篇堂，而每位寫超過一篇文嘅編者嘅第二篇文當中，最長嗰篇又貼堂，如此類推，直至湊夠數為止 (或者貼晒最近 N 日開嘅所有文)

我可以淨係要啲文章連結，唔要作者名同長度，擺喺頭版一個框框度，然後每日更新一次，點睇？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月30號 (二) 23:49 (UTC)

👏👏👏。好快手。

你指上面第九項嗎？改為貼堂新文，限制一人一篇咁都唔錯。湊數就無咗日日成習慣嘅意思，寧願唔夠數，尋日無就話無，叫各位維基友努力。

第八項入圍名單，仍然有必要。尋日開版及格，人人都有份。啲人頭版見到自己名喺，咁可以鼓勵參與。反正開文人唔多，列晒十幾廿個都唔係問題。若果有百個維基友以上，到時開心都來唔切，字體細啲又得，分兩級，上頭版規舉再嚴格啲又得。

尋日新文成功入圍維基友有：陳亞文、陸季性、Abbssi、莫比一二三、ebuokpeki、朱小小⋯⋯一路咁列落去。

HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年5月1號 (三) 06:04 (UTC)

我有個小提議。我覺得一篇文嘅質素好唔好，查實又唔係淨係睇字數嘅，reference 嘅數量、reference 數量對字數比例、仲有係圖對字數比例... 等多個 variable 都好重要。所以我諗緊，不如喺呢類 bot 嗰度用人工神經網絡：例如整個 bot 係內置咗個 feedforward 神經網絡嘅，個 feedforward 網絡嘅 input 係頭先提咗嗰柞變數，output 就係「篇文嘅質素」。跟手我哋揾柞文返嚟，每篇文我哋人手俾個分數佢，表示佢質素有幾好，再攞得出嘅 dataset 嚟 train 個網絡，然後就俾個 bot 按照呢個神經網絡篇篇文俾個分數佢，用呢個分數排。你哋覺得點？恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 09:56 (UTC)

一直都有數據睇到，個『深度』指標由以前大約30落到16就知文章嘅數量同埋文章嘅編輯比例。另外依家喺技術上面限制咗加新國文嘅嘢上去，大部份帶有國文嘅新嘢都會被阻止，呢個會間接影響到總編輯嘅數字。做排名嘅功夫嘅上面應該有數據可以拎返，再用機械人幫手更新落啲版度嘅。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年5月1號 (三) 01:15 (UTC)

咁文章內容，可以少啲顧慮灌水問題。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年5月1號 (三) 06:04 (UTC)

補充下，有關第六項熱門排名，Analytic 個 REST API有尋日熱門，只要過濾走其他類嘅版，就可以拎出來用。例如https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/pageviews/top/zh-yue.wikipedia.org/all-access/2019/04/30 會攞到頭一千篇嘅json。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年5月1號 (三) 06:04 (UTC)

如果要鼓勵多啲人寫文，我諗要喺 facebook 呢啲社交媒體上宣傳吓，例如係叫啲 friend share 吓我哋寫咗嘅靚文噉。我喺 facebook 度有個 friend 定時定候 share 我寫嘅文，吸引到唔少人問點樣先可以加入幫手寫維基。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年5月1號 (三) 09:36 (UTC)

依個要靠人出面推廣。亦可以開Facebook page推文。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 08:21 (UTC)

我個人覺得唔單止喺Facebook page推文，甚至喺中國大陸嘅微博嗰邊推文（因為中國大陸封殺咗facebook）。--PQ77wd (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 10:32 (UTC)

其實成日有新用戶同IP人將一兩個「嘅」改成「的」，有啲重喺編輯摘要度話「改成書面語」之類，似係唔為意呢度係粵文維基百科，無幾耐就俾人反轉。可唔可以改改國文個AbuseFilter，話聲佢哋知呢度唔係中文維基百科，但都係可以一樣改文，吸引佢哋來寫文呢？--‎H78c67c·傾偈 2019年5月1號 (三) 13:18 (UTC)

係咪要改編輯器？HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 08:21 (UTC)

可能，之前整過一句喺呢度。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年5月2號 (四) 08:38 (UTC)

呢樣我喺之前專程開咗個{{contrib-cmn}}噉嘅模。--PQ77wd (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 10:34 (UTC)

是日正文無限loop

@HenryLi、Shinjiman、恐狼博士：最近我同恐狼傾開一個提議。本來我哋想解決嘅問題係，新文可以上一次你知唔知、升好文之後可以再上頭版、升正文之後又可以再上頭版，但升正文上頭版之後就會永遠雪藏。但諗到個提議之後，發覺可以解決埋「日日要換頭版」嘅提議：

將「是日正文」變成一條全部正文都排嘅隊，每日自動換畫無限 loop。

點睇？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月6號 (一) 15:19 (UTC)

呢個咪同『正嘢』裏面嘅『正文』小節差唔多？ Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年5月6號 (一) 23:58 (UTC)

可以噉講，不過係定期換畫而唔係每次 refresh 都換畫。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月7號 (二) 10:36 (UTC)

建議盡快引入「維基欺凌」同「濫用規則」兼制定本地准入規則

近期我去維基同享時，發現某用戶喺度大規模刪走啲原創相，出埋嗮啲「NO FOP IN CHINA」嘅理由，搞到好多維基同享嘅管理員都信以為真都刪嗮（其實嗰啲相完全冇任何違反規則啊），加上重寫埋「Please keep calm and collegial」嘅無哩頭言論。經發現係粵維某用戶嘅所為，佢之前曾經喺粵維搞過提刪幾鑊（睇WP:刪文討論嗰幾單有拗數嘅刪文就知），口氣有啲似想產生挑釁噉（尤其係呢單，完全係純屬惡意，噉嘅事俾我睇到，真係佛都有火喇。噉嘅示例喺日文同中文維基，完全可以判定係惡人先告狀），按照中文維基話齋：維基百科唔係戰場。而且粵維之前出過類似s7兄咁大口氣爆粗口嘅事件。加上近呢半年嚟出現過有人惡意提刪嘅事件，我認為「與其猛咁喺度拗，不如寫多啲文章」嘅諗法已經過嗮時。

講個分級教材：若果德國都可以決定唔再採納pegi後，而係決定用國內嘅USK嘅審查制度，點解粵維就唔可以決定唔再參照英維規矩？的確，英維嘅規矩係針對英維制定嘅，嗰邊還英文維基嘅事，嚟到粵維唔係樣樣都啱情況。就攞TALK:清平路 (廣州)同WP:管理員留言板#擾亂維基百科、WP:管理員留言板#人身攻擊、WP:管理員留言板#2019年3月 (2)呢六單，若果喺中文同日文維基百科，噉嘅鬧人同挑釁事件就係純屬維基欺凌（因為屬於不實指控）。另一方面，大維基一樣有制定防止惡意濫用規則嘅規定，以日文維基做例：都有規定唔畀濫用制裁（睇ja:Wikipedia:規則の悪用#制裁制度の悪用），再唔信嘅，喺中文維基都有規定唔畀濫用制裁（zh:WP:游戏维基规则#游戏方针与指引使用）。 --PQ77wd (傾偈) 2019年5月4號 (六) 05:29 (UTC)

歡迎各位回應（喺管理員留言板提出過話要求封Cedric兄或Longway22，兼有提過北京路嘅搬版嗰個用戶除外。另外，參與過五臺山、泗水嘅討論同有兩次封禁記錄嘅人除外）。--PQ77wd (傾偈) 2019年5月4號 (六) 05:33 (UTC)

唔介意本地立法，粵維規矩亦一直支持本地立法，只不過係喺未有本地討論之前，可以假設英維、中維原則通用，方便節省寫政策嘅人手。留意 Gaming the system 係指引，Wikibullying 只係「解釋」。不如你寫一個「濫用規則」提案，然後大家一齊執？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月6號 (一) 14:54 (UTC)

好。既然係噉嘅話，我都有必要引入濫用規則呢條先，費事夜長夢多。--PQ77wd (傾偈) 2019年5月7號 (二) 02:00 (UTC)

技術

Correct title悖論

用Template:Correct title嘅文，改文嗰陣有提示： Display title "xxxxxx" was ignored since it is not equivalent to the page's actual title. 。點解要ignore呢？若果Display title同page's actual title一樣，使鬼用Template:Correct title咩？--Johnarkeung (傾偈) 2019年1月5號 (六) 11:45 (UTC)

嗰幾版有個『#』號喺裏面，嗰個符號用唔到做標題名，所以就會用到上面所提及到嘅模。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年1月5號 (六) 16:36 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

• RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [2]
• MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [3]
• codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [4]
• On several wikis, an account named "濫用過濾器" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

• In AbuseFilter, the "控頻" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [5]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

• Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.

2019年1月7號 (一) 18:30 (UTC)

FileExporter beta feature

Coming soon: the beta feature FileExporter

A new beta feature will soon be released on all wikis: The FileExporter. It allows exports of files from a local wiki to Wikimedia Commons, including their file history and page history. Which files can be exported is defined by each wiki's community: Please check your wiki's configuration file if you want to use this feature.

The FileExporter has already been a beta feature on mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP and on wikisource.org. After some functionality was added, it's now becoming a beta feature on all wikis. Deployment is planned for January 16. More information can be found on the project page.

As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test the FileExporter, please activate it in your user preferences. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 2019年1月14號 (一) 09:42 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-03

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

• 你而家可以喺内容翻譯架生度用Google翻譯。 [6][7]
• You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
• 以前，括住嘅HTML屬性後面要有個空格。而家唔駛嘞，亦即係話就算你無改到某部分嘅内容，儲存咗之後嗰樣都可能會有唔同。 [8][9]
• Templates with could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [10]

問題

• When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [11]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

• You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
• Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [12]
• 2016年起唔建議再用嘅濫用過濾器變數minor_edit經已停用，唔會用得到。你可以喺Special:AbuseFilter度搵重用緊呢個變數嘅過濾器，兼且整返好佢哋。
• 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺1月15號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺1月16號升級。其餘wiki會喺1月17號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

• 歡迎參加喺IRC上面舉行嘅技術建議會議。會議上面，義務開發人員可以索取建議。會議將會喺1月16號 16:00 (UTC)舉行。參加辦法喺度。

遲啲嘅更新

• In the future users can be blocked from editing a page or a namespace. What a "block" means will change. This means that you might have to update tools you maintain that handle blocks. [13]

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2019年1月14號 (一) 17:55 (UTC)

FileExporter (搬舊相去維基同享)

由今日開始，只要去「測試功能」開 FileExporter，就可以將自由圖直接掟去維基同享喇！

• 技術細節：mw:Help:Extension:FileImporter
• 粵維 FileExporter 設定版：mw:Extension:FileImporter/Data/zh-yue.wikipedia
• 本土化：去 TranslateWiki

--翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年1月16號 (三) 16:40 (UTC)

有問題嘅話請搵 User:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)，唔該！ (Bitte fragt Johanna, wenn ihr Probleme mit FileExporter habt :)) 翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年1月16號 (三) 16:42 (UTC)

Please add your feedback to the central feedback page, so we don't overlook anything: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:FileImporter. See you there! :) -- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (傾偈) 2019年1月17號 (四) 09:02 (UTC)

No editing for 30 minutes on 17 January

You will not be able to edit the wikis for up to 30 minutes on 17 January 07:00 UTC. This is because of a database problem that has to be fixed immediately. You can still read the wikis. Some wikis are not affected. They don't get this message. You can see which wikis are not affected on this page. Most wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

2019年1月16號 (三) 18:55 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

技術新聞

• 受MassMessage嘅問題影響，有啲人收唔到上個禮拜嘅技術新聞。如果你收唔到上個禮拜嘅新聞，你可以去維基元度睇。 [14]

最近更新

• 開咗個測試功能嘅用戶可以設定内容翻譯工具嘅第2版作為預設嘅版本。新版會加個追蹤類「含未審閱譯文嘅版」落去啲無執過嘅機械翻譯文畀其他人去搵。你可以喺維基百科度嘅Special:TrackingCategories度搵到呢個類。
• https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org而家可以一次過轉最多800頁去PDF、EPUB或者ODT。以前一次過淨係可以處理200頁。

問題

• 用即見編輯器改模嘅時候，有時候會變成一行過，搞到其他用源碼編輯器嘅用戶睇得好唔舒服，亦都搞到睇兩個編輯中間嘅差異好難。呢個問題影響咗喺1月8號至17號期間嘅改動。呢個問題而家整返好咗。 [15]
• MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [16][17]
• 因為有個要即刻整嘅數據庫問題，1月17號 (UTC)有幾分鐘喺絕大部分wiki度改唔到嘢。家下經已整返好。 [18]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

• 你可以喺模組namespace度用TemplateStyles。 [19]
• 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺1月22號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺1月23號升級。其餘wiki會喺1月24號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

• 歡迎參加喺IRC上面舉行嘅技術建議會議。會議上面，開發人員義工可以索取建議。會議將會喺1月23號 16:00 (UTC)舉行。參加辦法喺度。

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年1月21號 (一) 20:33 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-05

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

• 維基媒體伺服器而家用緊HHVM來運行PHP碼。佢哋第時會用PHP7同停用HHVM。你可以開個測試功能去測試PHP7。噉樣你可以幫手搵同埋報告臭蟲。

問題

• When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed. [20]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

• 今個禮拜無新MediaWiki版本。

會議

• 歡迎參加喺IRC上面舉行嘅技術建議會議。會議上面，開發人員義工可以索取建議。會議將會喺1月30號 16:00 (UTC)舉行。參加辦法喺度。

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年1月28號 (一) 18:15 (UTC)

Filter走火

開篇文有「系列」兩字，都誤中黑名單項：「.*列表*」。--Ccviewtv (傾偈) 2019年2月2號 (六) 11:42 (UTC)

可唔可以用左邊個「電郵畀呢個用戶」send 段走火嘅源碼俾我跟進下？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月3號 (日) 23:00 (UTC)

我可能表達得唔清楚，而家凡親標題有「系列」兩字嘅文都唔畀開，好容易試到：「系列」一開版已經話中黑名單（如果你個admin權override個黑名單，你可以登出試試），我估原意應該係唔畀開「列表」，唔知點解實際連「系列」都封埋。--Ccviewtv (傾偈) 2019年2月9號 (六) 10:55 (UTC)

唔該晒。我執返靚個 RegEx，而家應該可以有「系列」。[21] --翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月9號 (六) 14:05 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [22]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 February. It will be on all wikis from 7 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年2月4號 (一) 17:12 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can use the ambox CSS class to show page issues to mobile readers. When you use ambox there are classes you can use.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 February. It will be on all wikis from 14 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年2月11號 (一) 18:46 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [23]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback. [24]

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2019年2月18號 (一) 23:14 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

1. First, sign up your group here.
2. Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
3. Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
   1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
   2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
   3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
   4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
   5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
4. Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 2019年2月21號 (四) 15:01 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

• There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions. [25]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

• When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [26]
• 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺2月26號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺2月27號升級。其餘wiki會喺2月28號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

• 歡迎參加喺IRC上面舉行嘅技術建議會議。會議上面，開發人員義工可以索取建議。會議將會喺2月27號 16:00 (UTC)舉行。參加辦法喺度。

遲啲嘅更新

• The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年2月25號 (一) 21:17 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You can give feedback on the future of talk pages.
• The mobile website will use the standard fonts on your computer or phone instead of a generic font. This will make it easier to read text in many scripts. [27][28]

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2019年3月4號 (一) 16:38 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatements Lua function or the #statements parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using a Kartographer <maplink> if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
• There is now an EventStream to see when links are added or removed on Wikimedia wikis. You can read the discussions and plans.

Problems

• Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
• Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed. [29]
• Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed. [30][31]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年3月11號 (一) 19:29 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-12

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

• When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March. [32][33]
• 測試wiki同埋mediawiki.org會喺3月19號升級做新版嘅MediaWiki。其它唔係維基百科嘅wiki同埋部份維基百科會喺3月20號升級。其餘wiki會喺3月21號升級（睇日曆）。

會議

• 歡迎參加喺IRC上面舉行嘅技術建議會議。會議上面，開發人員義工可以索取建議。會議將會喺3月20號 16:00 (UTC)舉行。參加辦法喺度。

遲啲嘅更新

• 管理員將會可以封鎖某個用戶，唔畀佢改某啲版或者係某個空間名。呢個功能已經可以喺幾個維基媒體wiki度用得。你可以喺度知多啲。如果你嘅wiki想幫手測試呢項功能，你可以話畀啲開發人員聽。 [34]
• Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年3月18號 (一) 19:44 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version. [35]

Problems

• There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed. [36]
• The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon. [37]
• Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them. [38]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年3月25號 (一) 18:05 (UTC)

一鍵反轉新功能

一鍵反轉 (rollback) 而家多咗個喜好設定，可以變成二鍵反轉，想開嘅話請去 Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering 揀呢個選項。呢個選擇出現嘅原因，係德文維基百科唔少管理員投訴「反轉」擺喺「多謝」隔籬，好易撳錯掣。(meta:WMDE Technical Wishes/Rollback/Feedback round) 翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年4月1號 (一) 11:04 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Notifications tell you about things that happen on the wiki. You can turn on notifications about new links to pages you created. For performance reasons you can no longer get e-mails about this. [39]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年4月1號 (一) 16:29 (UTC)

點樣用wikidata嘅嘢落文章度

有格式嘅嘢，可以唔使寫出來，只要連得啱，就應該可以自動顯示。例如。

• 有座標，係咪可以自動顯示呢？咁就唔使特登搞。
• 有連去圖片分類，咁會自動掛模去分類。
• 自動生物分類又係咪可行呢？

呢啲嘢爭議較少，又唔使再浪費人力。若果得嘅話，無論寫文定協作，大家都做得有效好多。HenryLi (傾偈) 2019年4月7號 (日) 02:21 (UTC)

座標有關嘅應該用{{#property:Pnnn}}就得，可以睇返我之前開過嘅309咤叱系列文章做參攷。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年4月8號 (一) 03:28 (UTC)

建議將<center><center>錯誤放落過濾器

中文維基嗰邊唔知點解好興用「<center><center>」去置中，但呢種語法係錯嘅，皆因無咗end tag（</center>），會觸發Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag（雖然有大把未清理，不過最好盡量避免增加落去）。有啲人參考中文維基寫文，就好易將錯誤帶埋過嚟，要人執手尾。為免中文維基嘅歪風入侵，建議響過濾器加條規則，阻止用戶加入「<center><center>」。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年4月7號 (日) 15:35 (UTC)

加咗入去31號過濾器度，暫時針對住<center>標籤應對，只做警告提醒，睇吓仲有冇其它有關嘅標籤。如果情況未有改善嘅話，可以再收緊佢唔俾保存。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年4月8號 (一) 01:47 (UTC)

Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April

You will not be able to edit most Wikimedia wikis for up to 30 minutes on 11 April 05:00 UTC. This is because of a hardware problem. You can still read the wikis. You can see which wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

2019年4月8號 (一) 10:57 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
• Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers. [40][41]

Problems

• You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis. [42]
• A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back. [43]
• Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed. [44]

Changes later this week

• When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site. [45]
• The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more. [46]
• The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return "" (empty string). When you read a page it will return "-" (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces. [47]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia. [48][49]
• The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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2019年4月8號 (一) 18:24 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request

請幫手去譯做你嘅語言

The Wikimedia Foundation has published a Medium-Term Plan proposal covering the next 3–5 years. We want your feedback! Please leave all comments and questions, in any language, on the talk page, by April 20. 多謝！ Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 2019年4月12號 (五) 17:35 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will get a new constraint status called suggestion. This will change how the WikibaseQualityConstraints constraint checking API works. [50][51]
• You can test the depicts property for structured data on Commons.

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2019年4月15號 (一) 23:00 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook. [52][53][54]
• The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version. [55]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikipedia articles will have the sameAs meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test. [56][57]

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2019年4月23號 (二) 19:08 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android now invites users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. [58][59]

Problems

• Tech News was late last week because of a MassMessage bug. Other newsletters had the same problem. [60]

Changes later this week

• You will see when you last refreshed the recent changes page. This is so you can see how recent the changes are. [61]
• When you write a comment in Structured Discussions but have not posted it yet your web browser will save it in local storage instead of session storage. This means you do not lose them even if you close your web browser. Structured Discussions used to be called Flow. [62]
• You will be able to turn off milestone notifications. Milestone notifications congratulate you when you have made certain numbers of edits. [63]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikidata wb_terms table will be dropped. This will affect some Wikidata tools. They need to be updated. The table has become too big which is causing problems. This will happen on 29 May. You can read more. You can ask for help if you need it.
• Wikimedia wikis will soon use a token when you log out. This changes how the API works. Some tools might need to be updated. [64]

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2019年4月29號 (一) 22:28 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem. [65]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年5月6號 (一) 16:28 (UTC)

Multilingual Shared Templates and Modules

Hello yue-wiki community! (請幫手去譯做你嘅語言)

I recently organized a project to share templates and modules between wikis. It allows modules and templates to be “language-neutral”, and store all text translations on Commons. This means that it is enough to copy/paste a template without any changes, and update the translations separately. If someone fixes a bug or adds a new feature in the original module, you can copy/paste it again without any translation work. My bot DiBabelYurikBot can help with copying. This way users can spend more time on content, and less time on updating and copying templates. Please see project page for details and ask questions on talk page.

P.S. I am currently running for the Wikimedia board, focusing on content and support of multi-language communities. If you liked my projects like maps, graphs, or this one, I will be happy to receive your support. (any registered user group can vote). Thank you! --Yurik (🗨️) 2019年5月11號 (六) 07:49 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 15 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年5月14號 (二) 00:49 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The report for phase 1 of the talk pages consultation 2019 has been published. Communities are invited to start phase 2 of the consultation on their wikis.

Problems

• File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed. [66][67]
• Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments. [68][69]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 五月. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 五月. It will be on all wikis from 23 五月 (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 五月 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team. [70]
• The Wikidata wbeditentity API endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June. [71]

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2019年5月20號 (一) 13:04 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user. [72][73]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年5月27號 (一) 15:34 (UTC)

Mobile visual editor test

請幫手去譯做你嘅語言.

Hello all,

The mw:Editing team has been improving the mw:Mobile visual editor. They would like to test it here. The purpose of the test is to learn which editor is better for new contributors. This is a great opportunity for your wiki to learn the same. This is an easy test that requires no work from you. You can read more about it at mw:VisualEditor on mobile/VE mobile default.

What? The test compares the mobile visual editor and the mobile wikitext editor, for newer registered editors (<100 edits).

Who? Half the people who edit from the mobile site will start in the mobile visual editor. The other half will start in the mobile wikitext editor. Remember: Most editors are not using the mobile site and will not be affected by this test. Also, users can switch at any time, and their changes will be automatically remembered and respected. If you have already tried the mobile visual editor, your preference is already recorded and will be respected.

When? The test will start soon, during June. The test will take about six weeks. (Then it will take a few weeks to write the report.)

Why? This test will help the team recommend initial preference settings. It will help them learn whether different wikis should have different settings.

Switching editing tools is quick and easy on mobile.

How can I switch? It's easy to switch editing environments on the mobile site.

1. Go to the mobile site, e.g., https://test.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random or https://zh-yue.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
2. Open any page to edit (click the pencil icon).
3. Click the new pencil icon to switch editing modes.
4. Choose either "即見編輯" or "源碼編輯" from the menu.
5. Done! You can do the same thing to switch back at any time.

If you have any questions, please leave a note at mw:Talk:VisualEditor on mobile/VE mobile default. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (傾偈) 2019年5月31號 (五) 22:19 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version. [74]
• There is now a field called depicts on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development. [75]
• Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema. [76][77]

Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [78]

Changes later this week

• Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited. [79]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2019年6月3號 (一) 15:24 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-24

維基媒體技術社群發出最新技術新聞。請將以下變更講畀其他用戶知。當然，唔係全部變更都會影響閣下。翻譯喺度。

最近更新

• When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them. [80][81]
• The Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standard OOUI icons. There will be additional minor fixes for positioning in the next deployment. [82]
• 機械人同其他自動工具若果唔設定一個可以識別嘅User-Agent（用戶代理）嘅話，喺設定返啱之前可能會受嚴格嘅速率限制。 [83]

問題

• Please check if the Flagged Revisions configuration on your wiki is as you expect (or as it was a few weeks ago). If not, please report it. [84]

今個禮拜遲啲嘅更新

• 今個禮拜無新MediaWiki版本。

會議

• 歡迎參加喺IRC上面舉行嘅技術建議會議。會議上面，開發人員義工可以索取建議。會議將會喺6月12號 15:00 (UTC)舉行。參加辦法喺度。

技術新聞由技術新聞編者準備，並由機械人傳送 • 幫手寫 • 幫手譯 • 搵幫助 • 畀意見 • 訂閲/退訂。

2019年6月10號 (一) 17:06 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [85]

Changes later this week

• MIDI files can soon be played without the Score extension. You can then add them with [[File:Filename.midi]]. Later override_midi and override_audio will stop working. Instead you will need to add the MIDI file below the music score. [86]
• A new video player will soon replace the old one. You will be able to enable it as a beta feature in your preferences. It will later be enabled for everyone if there are no big problems. [87]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some gadgets and user scripts still use the old wgEnableAPI and wgEnableWriteAPI values. These values are always true. They will soon be removed. This might break the gadgets and scripts. You should fix your gadgets to not use these values. [88]

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2019年6月17號 (一) 20:38 (UTC)

提議

日本足球員

用個bot flag戶頭用AWB處理special:search/insource:PAGENAME incategory:日本足球員。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年1月18號 (五) 06:09 (UTC)

可唔可以解釋下有咩錯要改？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年1月18號 (五) 18:41 (UTC)

{{subst:PAGENAME}}？--Hello903hello·傾偈 2019年2月4號 (一) 01:22 (UTC)

應該統一「蔴雀」叫法

主文叫「蔴雀」，分類叫「麻雀」，有啲文個名用「蔴雀」，有啲用「麻雀」，搞到好鬼亂，建議統一用其中一個。（如果揀「麻雀」，「蔴雀」可以考慮搬去「麻雀 (遊戲)」）。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年2月10號 (日) 14:04 (UTC)

我建議直接將分類改名。--PQ77wd (傾偈) 2019年5月4號 (六) 03:55 (UTC)

推英機

首先講明下：「推英機」爾個詞係我基於「推普機」發明嘅。

最近喺法維嗰邊發生徂件都幾好笑下嘅事：有個英維用戶（用戶名以007+1結尾）趯徂過去法維改嘢，同幾個當地用戶就文章格式發生徂爭執。今次爭執嘅內容唔係我要講嘅重點，我要講嘅重點係：爾個英維用戶堅持要喺法維講英文，法維管理員Azurfrog同個英維用戶解釋徂「係法維講法文係成文規例」，個英維用戶依然我行我素，唔單止連Google翻譯都唔肯用下，重擺出一副「我係英維活躍用戶我大澌」嘅姿態，調返轉頭來指責法維嘅當地用戶歧視佢，話佢等喺法維用法文係「expresses a sense of nationalistic superiority」（「刷民族至上主義感」）。

驟眼睇落大家可能會一笑置之，但係諗深一層大家就會意識到一樣嘢：法維係文章數量排行第五嘅維基百科，有相當完善嘅當地規例，恁都一樣有推英機過去踩場。好似我等粵維恁樣嘅細百科，連規例都要依賴英維，甚至連「喺粵維要講粵語」爾條規則都無，如果有推英機過來踩場，打死都唔肯講粵語嘅話，我等又應該點做？【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月11號 (一) 05:42 (UTC)

大部分 WMF 技術更新同全域政策都有「預設跟隨，但係有超過三個本站管理員嘅站點可以本站立法否決」呢個規定，所以粵維嘅空間名先會沿用英文而唔用漢字譯名。嗰啲冇得本站立法否決嘅全域政策多數涉及資訊安全，冇乜爭議。推普機入嚟亂改呢件事一路都有，我哋應付慣，所以幻想中嘅「推英機」唔係問題。講真，如果有個好似你或者博士咁高產量嘅人入嚟，話寫文應該跟英維風格，然後寫幾百篇華麗十分嘅粵文好文、長文，俾佢贏啦。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月6號 (一) 15:03 (UTC)

香港嘅flagicon

香港嘅flagicon係1997年回歸之後嘅洋紫荊，似乎唔係好適合一啲九七之前嘅條目（例如1963年港產片工廠少爺 (1963年)）。請問可唔可以整一個港英時期嘅flagicon呢？--定格流星 (傾偈) 2019年2月19號 (二) 08:37 (UTC)

{{HKG-1959}}？--219.77.70.229（討論） 2019年2月19號 (二) 10:01 (UTC)

諗法實驗室

正題、正主題

(合併討論，以下抄自User talk:Shinjiman)

其實係咪應該摺咗「Wikipedia:正題」同埋仲未開嘅「正主題」？英文維基百科已經摺咗「正題」，而我哋一直只得 Portal:香港 一個正題。集中火力寫文，煲大 Wikipedia:好文 同 Wikipedia:你知唔知好似實際啲。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月1號 (三) 11:48 (UTC)

如果個『正題』冇乜發展機會嘅話，唔反對摺咗佢嘅，『好文』可能將會係一種新嘅發展方向嚟。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年5月1號 (三) 16:08 (UTC)

(以下抄自Template talk:腦電圖)

• 講起上嚟，維基有正文，有正表，有冇正文系列？是咁的，我家陣諗住寫腦電圖系列（啱啱開咗《不匹配負向波》）同腦區系列（例如係我早排寫嘅四大腦葉）。雖然呢兩個系列包含嘅都將會係一大柞中至細規模嘅文，但係我相信成個系列嘅文加埋一齊會好可觀。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 04:07 (UTC)

  啱啱翹仔都講過呢個問題，或者可能開返個『正主題』？ Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年5月2號 (四) 05:06 (UTC)

合併討論。Wikipedia:正題對應英維摺咗嘅en:Wikipedia:Featured portals；「正主題」對應en:Wikipedia:Featured topics。我諗住放棄「正題」同「正主題」，係因為我覺得會冇人提名同打理，亦唔知可以拎去邊貼堂。但如果恐狼博士想搞嘅話，我唔介意。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月2號 (四) 11:17 (UTC)

@恐狼博士：點睇？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月6號 (一) 15:04 (UTC)

@翹仔 如果唔夠人搞嘅我覺得應該暫時摺埋佢先。恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年5月7號 (二) 00:09 (UTC)

@翹仔 一般嚟講，一個系列要有幾多篇文先算「好」？恐狼博士 (傾偈) 2019年5月7號 (二) 04:00 (UTC)

@恐狼博士：英維有en:Wikipedia:Featured topic criteria，但唔一定要跟。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月7號 (二) 11:29 (UTC)

我遲啲摺咗 Featured portals 佢，至於 Featured topics 可以繼續傾。如果 Featured portals 摺咗而又想開 Featured topics 嘅話，Featured topics 可以食咗「正題」呢個名。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月7號 (二) 11:29 (UTC)

基本上粵維所有Portal（分類將Portal譯做「指南」而唔係「題」）都係無人打理狀態，有好多更加係起咗少少內容就已經爛咗尾，唔好話Featured portals，可能連成個Portal制度本身都可以諗下暫時摺咗佢，集中資源寫文。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年5月19號 (日) 13:38 (UTC)

雜項

差館/警署

我贊成Category:警署搬去差館。但係我認為Category:香港差館底下旺角差館同深水埗差館應該搬返去警署，因為呢個係而家嘅正式名。第日有任何文章歸落差館類都好，該叫咩就咩，警察局/派出所/警察廳都好，唔需要劃一改名做差館。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年1月1號 (二) 00:43 (UTC)

Portal:臺灣時人時事定係Portal:時人時事/臺灣

香港嘅時人時事叫Portal:時人時事/香港，中國大陸嘅時人時事叫Portal:時人時事/中國（我認為應該用「中國大陸」，不過唔係今次要討論嘅重點），但臺灣嘅時人時事叫Portal:臺灣時人時事而唔係Portal:時人時事/臺灣喎。我認為應該要統一返個格式，跟邊款我暫時無意見。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年1月6號 (日) 16:11 (UTC)

佢之前開版之後有人搞過wikidata嘅項目整亂晒，依家搬咗版，整返好；之前Portal:時人時事/台灣曾經存在過。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年1月7號 (一) 00:51 (UTC)

2018年最多人睇嘅文

多謝WMFLabs嘅Topviews引入用年做單位嘅排名，可以等大家回顧返舊年全年邊啲文最多人睇，結果已經整理到呢度。睇埋前年比較，可以見到湖南衛視嘅《歌手》系列節目連續兩年霸住做粵維最多人睇嘅文，瀏覽人次更加由前年近37萬升到舊年近79萬，贏第二名幾十條街。正如我之前提過，《歌手》呢類同粵語圈無乜關係嘅嘢，交畀國維嗰邊寫就最好，唔應該走去做粵維最多人睇嘅文。不過唔計《歌手》，粵維整體嚟講都係影視娛樂類型嘅文最吸引到人過嚟睇。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年1月13號 (日) 15:32 (UTC)

似乎《歌手》系列嘅文章嘅水份都仲係有好多噉，不過睇嚟計數度，載入一次就會計一次，改完一版保存之後又會再計一次？ Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2019年1月14號 (一) 00:56 (UTC)

有興趣嘅話，可以手機裝Wikipedia嘅APP，揀咗粵語後，會睇到有個每日熱文嘅欄目（數據計自前一日），然後就會發現，基本上各個語種維基啲人最多睇嘅都係啲娛樂類嘅嘢（粵語嘅，最常見係啲港星），偶爾因爲某啲節慶或者大事、新聞發生，就會有相應版面浮上頭。所以我覺得每年個榜都會差唔多。--S7w4j9 (傾偈) 2019年1月14號 (一) 05:45 (UTC)

講水份，《歌手2018》編輯次數確實高過其他文好多，但千幾次編輯，夾埋嘅水份頂盡咪一萬次瀏覽，但結果都係拋離第二名《蝕日風暴》63萬次瀏覽，所以唔可以單純用改得多去解釋。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年1月20號 (日) 12:37 (UTC)

病毒譯名

（我從來都唔認為音譯可分對錯，只有好壞，更莫論「病毒」。不過姑且遷就以下呢d譯法嘅始作俑者嘅習慣。）

1. 寶華佐利
2. 利揚省
3. 利揚堂
4. special:permalink/843943 （有d人名睇唔明？原文係en:special:permalink/593446014#History。）
5. 洛他·馬臺斯
6. 查爾斯·格比奇
7. 巴素爾－繆侯燊－符賴堡歐洲機場
8. 大高峰 (阿拉斯加)
9. special:permalink/1052229
10. zh:米夏埃爾·西爾伯鮑爾 （搭秤醒嘅）

今日年廿八，提住咁多先，但洗甩唔易。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月2號 (六) 14:52 (UTC)

用天安門廣場四君子之一嘅周舵喺2014年接受採訪嗰陣講嘅一句話來形容R大狀真係最適合不過：「只要跟我意見不同，就恨不得撲上去把人家掐死」。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年2月8號 (五) 01:20 (UTC)

冗長多餘嘅資料

Special:貢獻/Nttrouve新開嘅版，多數都包含冗長嘅巴士車型資料。我認為係多餘，頂櫳寫一兩句簡短交代有咩車廠足矣。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月2號 (六) 15:00 (UTC)

我覺得OK嘅，英維都有一堆巴士、火車公司文章，大半篇都係服務路線同埋車隊資料，只係對外部來源嘅要求嚴啲。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年2月3號 (日) 23:17 (UTC)

interesting read

en:special:permalink/882732807#A_frontal_non-free_image_because_we_only_have_a_profile, something so simple. Yet almost certainly never can one expect similarly rigorous inputs from this community.--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月11號 (一) 03:13 (UTC)

It took one minute for enwp to remove this EDP contravention. Here on yuewp, unfree files could remain unnoticed for 10+ years. Some newbie came along and took matters into his own hands. Still the files tagged for deletion are piling up for months. Who are the ones taking other people's efforts for granted?

If EDP is not enforced, local upload should not be enabled. If no one understands the EDP, how was it implemented in the first place? So far only one user contributed to the contents of the local EDP though. Perhaps this helps to explain this community's general oversight of non-free files.--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月11號 (一) 03:50 (UTC)

一d俗語

Special:貢獻/138.19.172.0/22，「只顯示開新版嘅編輯」。有d跳轉應該改成去維基辭典嘅soft redirect。我記低好耐，而家懶得理喇。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月19號 (二) 17:34 (UTC)

• 一樣有問題嘅起碼仲有Category:粵字、Category:粵語詞匯。我認為理想做法係，喺維基辭典寫好佢。但「寫」太麻煩。喺粵文維基辭典，是但一樣可以機做嘅嘢都冇，全部要人手做，浪費人生。粵文維基辭典係注定失敗嘅項目，中短期內都冇乜希望。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月22號 (五) 18:50 (UTC)

投訴長期未處理

本年1月24號，我提出一項有關「自我宣傳」及「以謊言干擾維基百科」嘅投訴：special:diff/1260115，及後再作3次補充。4次修訂悉數被User:Deryck Chan刪除，日誌如下：

1. special:redirect/logid/247977
2. special:redirect/logid/248029
3. special:redirect/logid/248030
4. special:redirect/logid/248031

另外仲有一次威脅封鎖special:diff/1260285。

除此以外，該項投訴至今未有處理。我促請管理員處理該項投訴。

On 24 Jan 2019 I reported acts of self-promotion and disruption to Wikipedia. By the following day, 25 Jan, User:Deryck Chan has redacted all four relevant revisions (see logs above) and threatened me with a block on the grounds that I had violated privacy rules. It has been nearly a month, but the contents of my report remain unaddressed. Could any sysop please attend to this matter without further delay?--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年2月22號 (五) 22:02 (UTC)

Another two weeks went by and the contents of the four redacted revisions are still unaddressed. @Deryck Chan： If you or any other admin is not willing to handle the contents of the four redacted revisions, please restore the four revisions. Consider this the last chance to undo deletion before complaints on admin abuse and admin negligence are lodged.

我最後重申一次，請撤銷上述四項刪除日誌對應嘅刪除，除非刪除咗嘅投訴獲得處理。--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 15:31 (UTC)

既然 Roy17「last chance」我，咁我講兩句。上面 Roy17 寫嘅係對我嘅投訴，用第三人稱寫，所以我收聲，等其他編者評論，但似乎未有其他人有興趣介入。我認為我以上收埋嗰幾次收改，做法符合Wikipedia:騷擾裡面唔准「展示有其他用戶個人資料嘅站內／站外網頁」嘅要求。如果你認為粵維社群處理唔到你嘅投訴嘅話，請自己向更高權威報告。翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 15:44 (UTC)

I have repeatedly asserted in both Cantonese and English that my reports on "self-promotion and disruption to Wikipedia" should be addressed by "any sysop", regardless of the visibility of those four revisions. And I pinged Deryck Chan, who deleted the revisions, each time I made this request. Yet he continues to ignore it. His comment above is nothing but a mere repetition of his thinking behind his deletion, which he had written on my talk page. I do not need that.

Why does an admin delete the complaints without addressing them, even after repeatedly being urged to do so?--Roy17 (傾偈) 2019年3月6號 (三) 16:31 (UTC)

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外滿洲地名嘅搬版

粵維收錄嘅外滿洲地名，本嚟都係用傳統中文名而唔係由俄文譯成北話嘅名（例如用「海參崴」而唔係「符拉迪沃斯托克」），但最近有位主要響國維活躍嘅維基友唐吉訶德的侍從，響未經任何討論嘅情況下，將多個外滿洲地名搬版，理由係中文名無來源。不過，查返國維對應文章，多數都有列出來源，搬版理由似乎唔成立。查實用傳統中文名，不但符合中文名優先（相對外文名）嘅原則，亦可以避開譯音同粵語相差太遠嘅問題。建議還原所有搬版。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2019年5月19號 (日) 13:31 (UTC)

支持。若果要用音譯名，點音譯法又係戰爭一場，用中文名可避免問題。--S7w4j9 (傾偈) 2019年5月19號 (日) 14:13 (UTC)

支持還原。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠】 2019年5月20號 (一) 05:45 (UTC)

傾向同意全部還原用傳統漢字名。@唐吉訶德的侍從：可唔可以講兩句？@Kowlooner：你知唔知有咩版受影響？翹仔 (傾偈) 2019年5月21號 (二) 10:43 (UTC)

反對：只建議海參崴、伯力、海蘭泡、雙城子、廟街、尼布楚、雅克薩、庫頁島、外興安嶺用漢名（皆為常用），其他應用俄語名。原因：其餘地區漢語名不僅極少使用，更是連準確性都存在爭議。例如阿穆爾河畔共青城的傳統中國名，早期版本稱是「瓦倫」，後來又用戶改成了「謨爾齊」[89]。是IP的修正，還是惡搞？完全就無法查證哪一個是對的。所以應使用俄語譯名。另外，建議移動重新命名為俄語的粵音譯名，尊重原文讀音。--唐吉訶德的侍從 (傾偈) 2019年5月21號 (二) 11:01 (UTC)