User talk:WikiCantona/archive

好歡迎你來到粵語維基百科，你可以跟住維基百科嘅規則，來寫維基百科嘅文章。因為係草創階段，規章同埋規模未係咁整齊，之不過會同其他維基百科睇齊。希望你鍾意來呢度寫嘢，同埋做個維基人。順便講下，響唔同討論版同投票版，都記得打三個~來簽個字，好似咁~~~，而四個~(~~~~)可以有埋你個名同日子。有乜嘢問題，可以睇下Wikipedia:城市論壇問下呢度嘅維基人，亦都可以去我個討論版問下我。再一次歡迎你！

HenryLi 2006年12月6日 (三) 18:40 (UTC)

回：Template:十二生肖

整返好。雖然唔知點解，我抄一次，睇一次，存一次咁就無事。唔知係咪有啲碼嘅問題。 HenryLi 2006年12月13日 (三) 03:06 (UTC)

傾嘢記得簽名啊

你同Hillgentleman響Talk:燒嘢食唔記得打四條蛇簽名，唔知邊個同邊過傾緊。HenryLi 2006年12月13日 (三) 03:12 (UTC)

燒嘢食

有人將燒嘢食拎咗過國語維基百科，點知被人問有無權威證據。重話網上揾唔到云云。---Hillgentleman 2006年12月17日 (日) 03:18 (UTC)

zh:港式燒烤--Hillgentleman 2006年12月17日 (日) 03:31 (UTC)

搬完之後

搬完之後，記得將所有相關redirection改返正啊。HenryLi 2007年1月4日 (四) 23:58 (UTC)

• no problem, 改篇文先。

封人

封人正式叫block (ban 好似勁好多)－呢度無乜程序喎好似。警告下渠，可subst 塊 template:test3 或template:test4, 好似咁{{subst:test4}}--~~~~；如果嚴重緊急嘅大鑊嘢可試 電郵/irc 個管理亨利或者先知人等等或者揾 執行員(steward)。---Hillgentleman | 書 2007年1月24日 (三) 12:05 (UTC)

template:非粵語

明唔明？你可睇吓 Wikipedia:要譯成粵語嘅文章 & template:需譯--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年1月24日 (三) 12:15 (UTC)

• 老友，明未呀？明就拎走個模。--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年1月28日 (日) 12:15 (UTC)
  • thank you, 掂。

玩野

老友，其實２１８１８８３６６所為屬玩野，未算嚴重。可參攷：en:template:test2, en:template:test1. ----Hillgentleman | 書 2007年2月1日 (四) 08:29 (UTC)

Wikipedia:申請罷免管理員/RockLi

指唔係唔得，但指d錯既野就唔岩啦。flamelai在Wikipedia:管理人員任免記錄/RockLi所提到既，係有錯漏的，例如有關香港維基媒體基金會籌備委員會第十次會議會議記錄都未出，所以唔應該再周圍copy，誤導大眾。--encyclopedist (對話頁) 2007年2月11日 (日) 18:29 (UTC)

眼鏡凱門鱷

WikiCantona:

• 好似差[ http://www.reptilesworld.com/bbs/TopicOther.asp?t=5&BoardID=69&id=57021] 唔多。可能要改寫。--Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月12號 (星期一), 格林尼治標準 17點45分37秒
  • 唔完全一樣。你可睇下篇文沿革。作者已改寫過。我覺得其實係作者自己有書，但借住篇嘢唔使打咁多字。可以問下佢。但第一段要改。--Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月12號 (星期一), 格林尼治標準 17點54分10秒

• 有篇正嘢。---Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月12號 (星期一), 格林尼治標準 20點52分09秒

可否去SC96 討論頁建議渠做emergency sysop. 渠而家一直喺度打破壞。--Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月14號 (星期三), 格林尼治標準 14點06分18秒

客觀、範式

• 遲下，搞掂曬手頭嘢，可以試譯en:objectivity (science) 同en:paradigm（範式）,en:exemplar。中文維基百科未有。--Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月14號 (星期三), 格林尼治標準 20點52分59秒
• 你唔識渠，無證據唔好話渠有乜奸計。或者渠習慣講嘢過火同拉埋的唔拉更嘢。應該叫渠客觀、禮貌同提醒渠睇五大支柱。--Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月15號 (星期四), 格林尼治標準 09點54分37秒
• 但你認為係乜，似乎無關討論喎。辯論中，唔離題係最最重要嘅。--Hillgentleman | 書 ---2007年02月15號 (星期四), 格林尼治標準 10點20分50秒

謝謝

謝謝您的歡迎，不過打廣東話真的很難。　--Chaplin 2007年2月15日 (四) 13:27 (UTC)

粵字

老友，百科文一般盡量避免指向 Wikipedia: 空間名，以避循環參攷。但連去本字或者都有用，但至少應指明係 wikipedia:廣東話本字。可以考慮：有朝一日要出版維基百科，啲討論頁同 Wikipedia: 頁唔屬百科範圍，亦唔多受NOR, NPOV 之類政策管，唔會跟住出版。---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二千七年三月三號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 04點17分57秒

• 有人唔中意inter-namespace redirect，但我（自己）覺得呢下無傷大雅，而且有用。畢竟我地重摸索緊廣東話正字。或者遞日搬wikipedia:廣東話本字去維基學府研究，過咁上下時日，有番咁上下多人參與，有專業嘅嚴慬，或者可變做可靠來源。---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二千七年三月三號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 17點47分15秒
• 另，靜靜講，好多時咁樣 啲字會令我心跳加速。（好似假設左對方唔識揸重點，要咁指出）。我寫嘢通常都盡量避免。如果要用，我寧用咁樣；有啲人唔中意，話斜體中文未必每種 browser 都好睇，但無人話睇唔到。
• 換句話講，唔講廢話，就每字都重要。聽高僧講道，慢慢來，唔使拍檯拍凳，大家都聽實。-----Hillgentleman | 書 , 二千七年三月三號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 18點02分38秒

日期

如果開日期嘅文，順手加返interwiki link。咁方便大家參考。HenryLi 2007年3月9日 (五) 05:08 (UTC)

唔駛多謝

最緊要大家認為用「搞清楚」方便就 ok 喇。Roy2005 2007年3月9日 (五) 17:38 (UTC)

今期 wikizine (64)

簡東拿，今期 wikizine (64) [1]：

=== Media ===

[According to Wikipedia] - The English language Wikipedia article about the US
town "Sioux Falls" is printed in a local publication of that town. This is what
Wikipedia is all about, giving people information they can use freely. However,
people of Sioux Falls where not charmed with the article's description of their
town as a "dirty little town" and "full of drunks".
...
=== Did you know ... ===

... that it is possible for non-sysop to semi-protect a page?

This method is based on last week's "did you know" about protecting unborn
articles (see link below). If you "transclude" pages you would like to protect
(including them as templates) on a page that is semi-protected with the
'cascading protection' option enabled, they will be automatically protected
from edits by non-sysops.
...

---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二千七年三月十五號(星期四), 格林尼治標準 03點08分19秒

管理員權限

WikiCantona兄你好呀，響呢幾個月內閣下都對粵語維基百科都作出咗唔少嘅貢獻，都得到咗唔少響粵語維基百科維護唔少嘅經驗。想問一吓閣下有冇興趣做粵語維基百科嘅管理員呢？因為現時響粵語維基百科度，有管理員權限而又活躍嘅都只得兩三位。多幾位管理員對維護同埋對修補破壞係一件好事嚟嘅。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年3月20日 (二) 04:48 (UTC)

我已經幫手開咗呢一版喇，各位嘅用戶可以響嗰一版度表達意見。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年3月22日 (四) 15:48 (UTC)

恭喜你已經成功申請做管理員。響運用管理員權限嗰陣，請睇睇響管理員嘅介紹，同埋睇睇Wikipedia:管理員閱讀一覽（重整緊），如果管理員之間有嘢問嗰陣，可以利用Wikipedia:管理員留言板同各位管理員發表。最後祝編輯愉快！ --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年4月5日 (四) 13:24 (UTC)

Template:引新聞

請睇：http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:%E5%BC%95%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E&action=edit 我當時懶，就咁用的中文字代替。第日會加番英文；暫時請你跟呢度Template:引新聞/解嘅註解譯住先。對唔住。送個{{Subst:氹氹轉菊花園|東|南|西|北|中}}畀你，你唔鍾意可以削咗渠。---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年三月二十四號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 14點07分57秒

• 不如你整埋渠，將啲｛｛｛中文參數｝｝｝改做｛｛｛english parameter|｛｛｛中文參數｝｝｝｝｝｝

同埋 ｛｛｛中文參數｜｝｝｝－－＞｛｛｛english parameter|｛｛｛中文參數｜｝｝｝｝｝｝ ---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年三月二十四號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 19點21分05秒

• [2], [3],[4] ---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年三月二十四號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 23點11分37秒

alnoktaBOT

Hello :)

You can get the bot from here. if you follow the instructions, you will be able to run it quite easily..I will add the Cantonese wikipedia to my to my list too :). (alnokta)

模

• 明白。留低英文。而 template:啤牌 入面啲參量係{{{1}}}、{{{2}}}、{{{3}}}，唔分英中。---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年三月二十九號(星期四), 格林尼治標準 13點46分09秒
• 多謝你的 ISBN。呢度唔易揾中文書。第日有機會就去睇。---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年三月三十號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 21點48分29秒
• 簡東拿，注意別字。（一致 ?、乜（水／誰？））遲的再傾。---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年四月七號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 17點00分05秒

• That is right. The purpose is only to reduce the boring task. We do not consider we have an article until we have digested it. And machine translation's contribution to digestion is 0%.

What I am thinking now is this: first convert single characters then revert the over-convertion then revert the over-over-convertion, I imagine that, after this, just check the diff, it would be easy to spot any error and correct it manually.

THEN the actual digestion begins!

P.S. I often think that the difference between National Speech and Wide East Speech comes from the tones: in national speech the lack of tonality forces many words to have similar sounds, and, in order to distinguish them clearly, and regional variations of pronounciations not being helpful, people started to lengthen their phrases and their sentences. PSS 若你惗到有乜，可直接改user:hillgentleman1嘅轉，反轉，反反轉。反反反轉。。 ---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年四月九號(星期一), 格林尼治標準 00點18分35秒

• 有。* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年四月十一號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 20點11分28秒

• 簡東拿，記住開你嘅電郵Special:Emailuser/WikiCantona功能。* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年四月十三號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 18點42分29秒

馬英九

唔中立嘅文字成日有，可以改其做客觀嘅敘述，同埋加入其他觀點。如果偏見太深，可暫時收埋，或削咗嗰部分[5]

NPOV 嘅原意係包容:

Wikipedia is first and foremost a general encyclopedia, and a general encyclopedia is a representation of the sum total of human knowledge, at some level of generality. But what really is "human knowledge"? Without first attempting to give a definition, we can acknowledge that there is considerable disagreement about cases; on any topic about which there are competing theories, each theory represents a different view of what the truth is, and to the extent to which it contradicts other theories, its adherents believe that the other views are false, and therefore not knowledge (on any account of knowledge according to which what is known must be, at least, true).

There are many people, with a wide range of opinions on many different topics, who are working on Wikipedia articles. We need do no more than observe this, than to see that we are faced with a problem: there is disagreement about what is true, and thus what constitutes knowledge, in any particular controversy. Given that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, how can we solve the problem of endless "edit wars" in which one person asserts that p, whereupon the next person changes the text so that it asserts that not-p?

[6]

至於唔係廣東話：當渠無到就得；亦可以用<!-- ---> 來收埋，好似咁。* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年四月十五號(星期日), 格林尼治標準 00點20分45秒

日-->號 : )

• Thanks.  :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年四月二十四號(星期二), 格林尼治標準 08點55分10秒

#if:

m:ParserFunctions. {{#if:|String|empty}} {{#if:nonemptystring|string|empty}} ---> empty string

• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月三號(星期四), 格林尼治標準 09點29分09秒

Dong Nin Gum Yat

• -->{{當年今日/試}}?
• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月四號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 10點11分55秒

Foon Ying

可用 Template:好歡迎 (talk, backlinks, edit)

/ (Template:歡迎你 (talk, backlinks, edit)

)

WikiCantona，歡迎加入粵語維基百科！

維基百科鼓勵勇於修改，所以放膽寫！「維基百科五大支柱」係百科、中立、內容自由、行為規範，同埋：無死板嘅規則。

順便提提，響討論版發言之後，記得打4隻(半形)波浪紋來簽名，即係咁~~~~。有乜嘢問題，可以去我塊討論版問我，亦可以來呢度揾答案。有嘢講？請去Wikipedia:新維基友留言。

我地發展緊用字嘅一套指引Wikipedia:廣東話本字，你可參攷同埋畀意見。希望你鍾意來呢度寫嘢。* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十六號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 05點57分41秒。唔使留低｛｛PAGENAME｝｝咁難睇（:?）

• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十二號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 01點36分49秒

Answers: 1. Check it yourself: {{subst:welcome}}-->

2. Check it yourself: special:whatlinkshere/template:好歡迎. You may use {{subst:wc}} -->

• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十二號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 02點22分12秒 2007年5月12號 (六) 02:22 (UTC)

WP:SALT

• 唔想太張揚，但斷估來搞搞震嘅都無乜邊個係高人。可以自動護／解一日，但要每日有人睇頁WP:SALT來啓動。
• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十六號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 05點57分41秒

Mobile telephone: Perhaps we can move it to the userpage. It may be helpful for encyclopaedic editing. It is not obviously violating any copyright.* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十七號(星期四), 格林尼治標準 11點15分41秒

• en:WP:USERNAME#Offensive usernames line 4: Usernames that promote or endorse real-world violent actions.* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十七號(星期四), 格林尼治標準 15點26分53秒

• The examples you gave were fine. However, this one is not. It is more than offensive. It advocates violence. Read en:WP:USERNAME#Offensive usernames line 4 again. * :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十八號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 01點06分01秒

• In english wikipedia, many unsuitable usernames are blocked on sight. Also in English wikiversity - one example was en:v:user:Osama Bin Laden. This is harmless and the best option because the user has not contributed any edit and it is easier than username change. If the name is certainly inappropriate, it should not be used.* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月十八號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 07點57分55秒

template:taxobox

• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十五號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 20點13分00秒

20070525224149

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

I think moving the Template:taxobox is very bad idea, I would not stop you (important decision like that should be discussed first). However, I do ask you to make sure it works because so many articles depending on it. Thank you very much. --WikiCantona 2007年5月25號 (五) 14:41 (UTC)

• 新評論：

20070525224517

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Sorry to say it so fast, you have not actually moved the Taxobox yet. Anyway, make sure it work well, before moving. my apology again.

--WikiCantona 2007年5月25號 (五) 14:45 (UTC)

• 新評論：

I agree.

20070525201103

• 有嘢講：/Comment： Yes, it works. To check that it works, see: [7]

This is how redirect is useful. The move was based on template talk:taxobox. It is important for wikipedia to be en:WP:BOLD. And so can you object. They are all parts of the process in the flow-chart on WP:CCC. --* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十五號(星期五), 格林尼治標準 20點11分03秒

P.S.呢段討論同時包括（transclude）響你我兩頁。你可以響你自己頁就地回，（記住撳個「新評論」掣！）我都睇到。

• 新評論：

20070526064129

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

I understand the redirect. But as happened to me before, something with the template:diambig... something don't work well. I have to manually change every page with that template. I don't want something happen before.

Moving something that important should be your initiation of a talk about the move, not my responsibility to object something yet to happen.

BTW, your new creation are very cool and useful. --WikiCantona 2007年5月25號 (五) 22:41 (UTC)

• 新評論：

20070526064256

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Also, consider how your new gaget works in an article - I love to read it.

--WikiCantona 2007年5月25號 (五) 22:42 (UTC)

• 新評論：

In an article? You mean the en:main namespace?

20070526043927

• 有嘢講：/Comment： 但維基百科一般唔畀主空間名用 subpage function；你可去英文維基學府玩；嗰度 main namespace 都用得子頁。

想知多的，睇下en:v:Threaded discussions with NavFrames. --* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十六號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 04點39分27秒

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070526043927 有乜連過來

20070526134019

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

I mean your comment adding system on both users, you may consider to write an /doc or article under your user subdirectory to explain how it is done or how to use it (as now it is quite good).

--WikiCantona 2007年5月26號 (六) 05:40 (UTC)

• 新評論：

How it is done; see my talkpage/preload how to use it: seeen:v:WV:THREADNAV

20070526140412

• 有嘢講：/Comment：How it is done: 關鍵係user talk:hillgentleman/preload嘅呢兩句：

*[{{fullurl:{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>NAMESPACE}}:{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>BASEPAGENAME}}/{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}|action=edit&preload=User_talk:Hillgentleman/preload&section=new}} 新評論：]
{{{{{subst|}}}{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>NAMESPACE}}:{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>BASEPAGENAME}}/{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}|subst={{{subst|}}}}}

。 睇下en:v:THREADNAV。 而家未寫得/doc住；件嘢重砌緊；

• How to use it: 你可以過去 en:v:WV:THREADNAV

、en:v:THREADNAV睇下。 

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十六號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 14點04分12秒 2007年5月26號 (六) 14:04 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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The reason was that we changed the variables, not the pagename.

20070526044243

• 有嘢講：/Comment： And that time I did change every page that linked to it. And then I added the variables back. And it was indeed discussed.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十六號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 04點42分42秒

• 新評論：

Okay. The pagename was discussed but the wasn't discussed much.

20070526050629

• 有嘢講：/Comment： It was my oversight. I am sorry about that.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十六號(星期六), 格林尼治標準 05點06分29秒

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070526050629 有乜連過來

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『唔該，加返啲資料嘅來源，維基百科唔係 forum，講嘢要有跟據。』

20070529071718

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Do we have any Template to tell user something like this:

『唔該，加返啲資料嘅來源，維基百科唔係 forum，講嘢要有跟據。』

Template:nothanks could be modified, you may make one.... Thank you --WikiCantona 2007年5月28號 (一) 23:17 (UTC)

• 新評論：

個模自己寫

20070529004330

• 有嘢講：/Comment： 唔清楚；或者去category:信模度睇睇。若無，你自己寫個模，照寫你頭先講嘅；記住要指個編者去相關嘅政策頁，或Wikipedia:五柱－若果有時未有啱用嘅政策頁，暫時指去英文都得；但好尐嘅做法係拉過來譯，或自己整。

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月二十九號(星期二), 格林尼治標準 00點43分30秒

• 新評論：

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Biography of living person en:WP:LIVING

1. 無相干嘅字面問題：呢度

"爆大鑊應該寄信去報館，等報紙報咗，然後引述報紙，而唔係作第一身報導，因為維基百科唔係報紙，唔係用嚟做第一身報導，"

我相信哈地講嘅係第一手原始報導，唔係講緊第一二三人身嘅視角。

2. en:WP:LIVING - 有好多時無傷大雅嘅，留住等查證唔係大問題，但生人就唔得。因為唔正當嘅文字會傷到人。所以唔可有絲毫懷疑。[8],[9]* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月三十號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 06點53分15秒

20070530161259

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

It is not Living person as such but it is about an organization - a school. Same standard applies?

--WikiCantona 2007年5月30號 (三) 08:12 (UTC)

• 新評論：

But a school is made up of living persons.

20070530082417

• 有嘢講：/Comment： In any case, the accusations are towards two or three individuals.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月三十號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 08點24分17秒

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070530082417 有乜連過來

No, not true, it does not use the name of a person. Also, the living person stuffs should not apply to an organization ( I could be wrong, I have no time to read that yet. ) To apply to the organization because school is made up of living person is simply false. To accuss an organization something is not the same as to accuss it part something. You may hear that expression: The whole is larger than the same. To say one person is a good person does not even make sense to say his or her cells are good cells even the cell make up that person. The moving parts of a clock is moving perfectly does not necessarily imply the clock is working perfectly --WikiCantona 2007年5月30號 (三) 09:46 (UTC) 新評論：

You are right, but that is not the point; the accusations are towards individuals

20070530115619

• 有嘢講：/Comment： A school consists of all the students and staff. The accusations are not about the whole school. They are about a small number of individuals, and the principal in particular. Whenever we are talking about living persons, every detail must be verifiable.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年五月三十號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 11點56分19秒

• 新評論：

Details matter

20070531073340

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

That depends on how the texts were written. The detailed accusations toward named individuals must be sourced. The current text written by me has been avoid all the specific mention of names and details that could identify the individual. The details should leave to the cited sources (if there is any).

Also, be very careful with using this Living Person deletion. Let say, there is organization X being critique for its position on Y, If you push along, the organiztion X must be headed by someone, made up with some individuals, By applying to the Living person criteria, all critiques could be removed. We don't want that, right ?! What if it is a tradition for the organization to do Y, it is a pattern, rather than person's doing. Of course, cited sources should be provided.

Whether to delete something or not cannot simply by citing some policies. Sometime they are judgement calls - not simply a clear-cut, black and white issue when coming to written text.

I will remove the paragraph in that article if no reliable sources are cited in one more day.

--WikiCantona 2007年5月30號 (三) 23:33 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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• Target - Thank you. I missed that. I have not time yet to learn how to hack the multiple character conversion.* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月四號(星期一), 格林尼治標準 22點51分48秒

A discussion is needed

• Your message at 20070610172201 * :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十號(星期日), 格林尼治標準 09點33分24秒

20070610172201

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Hello, I agree you what you said on 『咁樣合理啲； template:translation係開始譯時用嘅』. But the way you did it creates confusions, disrespects other's practice and ignores the wiki process. Template:translation and Template:translating pretty much the same things - use interchangably. Such practice may not be right and may be problemic, however, it has been done, a practice with history. But, you cannot make it right by changing the template while affecting tens if not hundred of articles using the translation templates. The new template may make the article confusing. Since the article has been translated into half way, now the template translation really confuse the reader about the article. Is it translating or just what I need to do. The modification of the template:translation change the rule of the game entirely. It is not fair to reader and author of articles whose intend only to say it is translating.

One way of looking at it, changing a widely used templates disrespect other's practice (which may not be a most logical one), hence, disrespect to other and entire wiki process based on community consensus. Another way of looking at it, it is good for you bringing up the illogical practice before but rather in an unwiki way.

--WikiCantona 2007年6月10號 (日) 09:22 (UTC)

• 新評論：

What I did was fine. Check :special:whatlinkshere/template:譯緊 - there is nothing.

20070610093012

• 有嘢講：/Comment： Wikicantona, The message on my page Cellular automata was wrong. Thus I changed the redirect. I checked the special:whatlinkshere/template:譯緊 before the edit. No page was actually using the redirect. Nobody has used it. Perhaps never. And I was the only author.

If we don't change it now, it would create confusion in the future. Thus en:Wikipedia:Ignore all rules and en:SNOW. --* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十號(星期日), 格林尼治標準 09點30分12秒

• 新評論：

20070610180119

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Sorry, misunderstanding. I was not talking about template:重譯緊 which is fine. The problem is with Template:translation. You changed template translation created confusion!!!, Many links to that [10]. The change you made is this one [11] which I feel problematic.

I am not saying that because it's always been and then should not be changed. Changes should also be considered the consequences of it. That is, the confusion introdues into the tagged article. At the least the changes should follow the wiki process (to reach consensus, for this one I believe you have the right move). At least one can do, when changes that template, make a note and correct the page links to it... anyway...

--WikiCantona 2007年6月10號 (日) 10:01 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Please be specific. Where is the problem?

20070610100856

• 有嘢講：/Comment： I did only two things: 1. introduced the variable. 20080727005238 - see m:help:variables for its use; 2. deleted two redundant words 積極.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十號(星期日), 格林尼治標準 10點08分56秒

• 新評論：

20070610185421

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Since the article may has been translated into half way, now the template translation really confuse the reader about the article. Is it translating or just what I need to do. The modification of the template:translation change "the rule of the game in the middle of it". It is not fair to reader and author of articles whose intend only to say it is translating.

e.g. 英國國籍法與香港 the template:translation is intend to say "translating" since the use of translation is the same as translating before you make the changes. The problem is introduced by your changes. Wikipedia:問 after pressing the link...the blank page is confusing... Pages with these problem are many. okay.

--WikiCantona 2007年6月10號 (日) 10:54 (UTC)

• 新評論：

This is due to the edits by user:shinjiman after mine.

20070610112645

• 有嘢講：/Comment： The cause is this edit [12] and thereafter.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十號(星期日), 格林尼治標準 11點26分45秒

• 新評論：

20070610193051

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Thank you for your info. I will ask Shin... Sorry for bothering you.

--WikiCantona 2007年6月10號 (日) 11:30 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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I know what you mean. Proposed solution: new template

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： Let us have a new template, called template:translate, and revert this to the old one. I cannot read Zhong Men at this moment.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十號(星期日), 格林尼治標準 11點31分29秒

• 新評論：

Template talk:Translation/20070610113129 有乜連過來

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回：康煕字典用

照睇返字典序就好清楚。裏面提到陳廷敬。我會建議改成redirect，唔係快速刪除。HenryLi 2007年6月12號 (二) 08:57 (UTC)

響第五版，「康熙五年閏三月十九日．日講官起居注翰林院侍講學士加五級臣陳邦彥奉敕敬書」，響第六版，康熙四十九年三月初九日．上喻南書房侍值大學士陳廷敬等」。好明顯係康熙年間嘅事，所以成書肯定係康熙年間。至於點流行民間，又係另一回事。所以建議redirection。 HenryLi 2007年6月13號 (三) 06:32 (UTC)

執香港哺乳動物

20070613051321

• 有嘢講：/Comment： 香港哺乳動物有唔啱GFDL嘢。可唔可執返渠？
• :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十三號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 05點14分32秒
• 新評論：

20070613132912

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

A rewrite or change it to Cantonese? Could be more specific on which part is in violation of GFDL. The whole article is copied from the government page... I was thinking how to do it. Any suggestion and idea as what direction we should take to fix this article? --WikiCantona 2007年6月13號 (三) 05:29 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Rewrite - add more references

20070613060845

• 有嘢講：/Comment： The issue here is that if one has only one references, it is all too tempting to copy. But if we have two or more references then we would use our own words. It is a useful topic, but I have very little access to printed information on this topic. User:probophilic should have it; but he is not around.

--* :)---Hillgentleman | 書 , 二零零七年六月十三號(星期三), 格林尼治標準 06點08分45秒

• 新評論：

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template talk:唔該一星期內加返根據

I have replied. Here is for you. -Wait a week and see. Or change the variables {{{底線}}} yourself to a nearer time (or to 0)Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月15號 (五) 04:48 (UTC)

When you add a thread, tis better to add a summarising section title, or else your comment will not show up in the Table Of Content.Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月15號 (五) 06:13 (UTC)

• you need to remind people too. Again can you remove my last edits (double one) and add the 目 character there. Thanks.

• Thanks. I know. That is why it is experimental. It doesn't hurt if you don't do it, anyhow. Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月15號 (五) 06:29 (UTC)

• Sorry; it seems WP:SKDT is the new target. At least it indicates that it works.Hillgentleman | 書

Thank you and questions

20070616221000

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

1.Thank you very much for that. {{special:prefixindex/User talk:WikiCantona/archive/}} very useful. But, can I put it in the format I use before...

2.Somewhat (or not) related question, I am working on 當年今日's index page [13]. The code look like this. You may see it is basically a list of item n+1 for 1 to 29 (or 30).

{{Wikipedia:當年今日/5月1號}}
[[Wikipedia:當年今日/5月1號|睇吓]] -
[[Wikipedia talk:當年今日/5月1號|討論]] -
[http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:當年今日/5月1號&action=edit  編輯] - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:當年今日/5月1號&action=history 記錄]

----
{{Wikipedia:當年今日/5月2號}}
[[Wikipedia:當年今日/5月2號|睇吓]] -
[[Wikipedia talk:當年今日/5月2號|討論]] -
[http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:當年今日/5月2號&action=edit  編輯] - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:當年今日/5月2號&action=history 記錄]

----

Is there a way to roll out all the repeat units with a few line of code ? (for next loop?) , thank you.

--WikiCantona 2007年6月16號 (六) 14:10 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Loop - Yes. see meta:template:countdown, http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=template:rule_30_long&action=history.

20070617004622

• 有嘢講：/Comment： Yes. First learn this: meta:template:countdown Then I can explain this: http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=template:rule_30_long&action=history

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月17號 (日) 00:46 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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崇正中學解得封未？Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月18號 (一) 04:51 (UTC)

Auckland Grammar School

Could you please write a stub http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Grammar_School - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Grammar_School? Only 2-5 sentences enough. Please. --Per Angusta 2007年6月18號 (一) 10:00 (UTC)

Thankyou so much WikiCantona for your excellent translation help!

I am very very Grateful.

May you and Cantonese Wikipedia prosper!

I have uploaded the image into Wikimedia Commons already. --Per Angusta 2007年6月18號 (一) 22:02 (UTC)

號本

你第二句答返你第一句。你第三句：你可以自己整。Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月21號 (四) 05:57 (UTC)

• As sentence 2 shows, there is no guarentee that we can find out all the misconversions. Thus we keep the redirect just in case. Since Ho Bun has no other meaning, it is no confusing, and we can keep it under WP:REDIRECT (misspelling).Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月21號 (四) 13:59 (UTC)
• Suggestion: since most of the 日-->號 are good, you should focus on greping 號本 and 號報. 因呢，其佢 etc also. Similarly I want to convert a lot of 在 et. al , but I haven't done it yet, for obvious reasons.Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月21號 (四) 14:01 (UTC)

Template:Conversionwarning。

Thank you, but there is already an optional message in template:translation, which should stay put until it is copyedited.Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月22號 (五) 01:21 (UTC)

維基百科 中文版 + 粵語版 黑幕網特 您好!!

請問您地國際班黑幕收倒中共﹐香港政府 同 香港D黑商 幾多錢呀? 咁好賺益下我呀﹐好唔好呀? 又有黑幕黎封所人地D意見啦﹐LEE度果然係大陸網特+香港黑商 天下。 真係佩服!! 佩服!!

字

無奈, 冇人唔畀你, 唔好側埋一邊Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月22號 (五) 15:50 (UTC)

Your comments

On your comments on Wikipedia:回應常見批評:

燒嘢食 cannot be used in the Chinese Wikipedia while other trivialized concept zh:香港燒烤文化 is replaced because the character 嘢 is not standard Chinese and "make it more universal (less regional)" (while zh:唰羊肉 is allowed).

I did not follow the entire story; the issue was trivial. Since our article 燒嘢食 was barely started when somebody took it, it was a stub, and it had no chance to develop into a balanced article, as in en:WP:CSB. In fact, the first sentence of 燒嘢食 is universal. Only the subsequent details are regional. Some people wrongly, and I repeat, wrongly believe that we cannot present regional point of views. Nonsense. These people don't understand m:NPOV. What we should do is to balance the various (major, if there are too many) points of views to achieve NPOV. Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月25號 (一) 10:20 (UTC)

Whether the regional point of view is presented or not, NPOV is not the point here. The article in Chinese cannot (/ought not) be called 燒嘢食 is the point. Some (Hong Kong) people think 燒嘢食 cannot be written because it is Cantonese, First, it is called 港式燒烤 then this title. While 唰羊肉 is perfectly regional food but can be written without being challenge. Why is that? Why should both are regional food style? one needed to remove from its original name and the other is acceptable?--WikiCantona 2007年6月25號 (一) 14:50 (UTC)

Of course not. Again! The article corresponding to 燒嘢食 is zh:燒烤, which is a standard Chinese term, which everybody understands. Cantonese words are part of the Chinese family. On top of your example, 胡同, as I remember, is an Manchurian word; and Manchurian is en:Altaic, and is not even part of the Chinese language family. And of course 巴士 is english. Again, that somebody nicked some content from 燒嘢食 and wrote another article, doesn't imply that the new article corresponds to the article here.Hillgentleman | 書 2007年6月25號 (一) 14:57 (UTC)

Neutral terms

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Hello, you have be kept reminded us that the NPOV is about the balance of point of views. What about the use of words. Many words has a position (i.e. 詞係有、貶、褒、中肯幾種). Is there any policy/guideline/quote/essay on this the use of "neutral term" (if there is such thing).

--WikiCantona 2007年7月2號 (一) 03:03 (UTC)

• 新評論：

fair, analytical description of all relevant sides of a debate/Debates within topics are described, represented, and characterized, but not engaged in.

20070702092416

• 有嘢講：/Comment： en:WP:NPOV:

As the name suggests, the neutral point of view is a point of view, not the absence or elimination of viewpoints. It is a point of view that is neutral; that is neither sympathetic nor in opposition to its subject. Debates within topics are described, represented, and characterized, but not engaged in. Background is provided on who believes what and why, and which view is more popular. Detailed articles might also contain the mutual evaluations of each viewpoint, but studiously refrain from asserting which is better. One can think of unbiased writing as the fair, analytical description of all relevant sides of a debate, including the mutual perspectives and the published evidence. When editorial bias towards one particular point of view can be detected, the article needs to be fixed.[2]

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月2號 (一) 09:24 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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Fairness of tone

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：en:WP:NPOV#Fairness of tone

If we are going to characterize disputes neutrally, we should present competing views with a consistently fair and sensitive tone. Many articles end up as partisan commentary even while presenting both points of view. Even when a topic is presented in terms of facts rather than opinion, an article can still radiate an implied stance through either selection of which facts to present, or more subtly their organization.

We should write articles with the tone that all positions presented are at least plausible, bearing in mind the important qualification about extreme minority views. We should present all significant, competing views sympathetically. We can write with the attitude that such-and-such is a good idea, except that, in the view of some detractors, the supporters of said view overlooked such-and-such a detail.

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月2號 (一) 09:29 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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en:WP:NPOV#Let the facts speak for themselves

20070702093210

• 有嘢講：/Comment：en:WP:NPOV#Let the facts speak for themselves

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月2號 (一) 09:32 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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template:countdown

你搞掂template:countdown未？Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月5號 (四) 01:09 (UTC)

乜乜份子

20070707142118

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

「極進份子」 「活躍份子」點解係同皆級抖爭有關，有冇參考呢？

--WikiCantona 2007年7月7號 (六) 06:21 (UTC)

• 新評論：

無，我唔識「分子」呢個詞嘅etymology, 但呢個詞語成日會alienate人，慎用！

20070707063901

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

對唔住，無，一時亦揾唔到。 照字面，分子= faction。我唔識「分子」呢個字嘅etymology，但懷疑來自階級鬥爭；無論如何，人就係人，教徒就係教徒，乜叫分子？好似你係正常人，渠就唔正常（「正常」呢度係中性嘅，活躍分子即係唔正常咁活躍嘅人）；呢個詞語成日會alienate人，慎用！

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月7號 (六) 06:39 (UTC)

• 新評論：

my understanding

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

當講一個組職時，裏面啲唔同部份時，就係份子，好似「中堅份子」、「活躍份子」、「恐暴份子」、「搗亂份子」... 呢個乜乜分子都幾常用，有好有壞，冇錯人係人，我自己由細聽啲人就咁講，所以唔覺有啲 alienation 嘅問題，『將人擬物』係文學上嘅方法，至於呢種講法嘅時代背境係乜，唔知，至於係唔係 out of fashion 都唔知，係唔係 political incorrect 唔清楚，可以做下 research？

--WikiCantona 2007年7月7號 (六) 09:49 (UTC)

• 新評論：

人好少叫自己做「乜乜份子」; terrorist = terrorism-->ist = 恐怖主義者。

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： 人好少叫自己做「中堅份子」、「活躍份子」、「恐暴份子」、「搗亂份子」。其實terrorist = terrorism-->ist = 恐怖主義者。你舉呢啲都係其他人叫嘅，有好多時有「佢係 我唔係、劃清楚河漢界」嘅涵義。 Thus, alienation.

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月7號 (六) 15:09 (UTC)

• 新評論：

『恐怖主義者』又唔係人哋加畀佢嘅

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

都唔係呀。『我係「中堅份子」』、『我呢個會係「活躍份子」』... 不時有人會咁講喎，唔算 alienation 呀。邊會 terrorist 邊會叫自己做『恐怖主義者』㗎，佢哋認為自己係 liberalizer, freedom frighters, god's army...，『恐怖主義者』又唔係人哋加畀佢嘅。I told you before terms are carrying point of view. Neutral terms are hard to come by.『乜乜份子』唔係問題，點寫句嘢先重要。

--WikiCantona 2007年7月7號 (六) 16:22 (UTC)

• 新評論：

I say what I mean. Terrorist= 恐怖主義者.

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： I do not use the term "terrorist". And when other people use it, I never translate the term into "terror faction member".

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月7號 (六) 16:28 (UTC)

• 新評論：

分子、份子

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Yesterday I went to the library to check 分子，and found out that the term appears in the ancient time. Exact quoting I don't have, but if you it, I will find it. Two ancient meanings: "descendent of a clan", "spliting money." 分子 is wrongly translated into fraction (派系), it should be "element" or "particle", or just people belonging to a group. It appears to be a very neutral terms - with good or bad.

I understand why you think 分子 have something to do with class struggle. The term 知識分子 is a group being 抖 in the "Cultural Revolution".

--WikiCantona 2007年7月8號 (日) 23:28 (UTC)

• 新評論：

"People belonging to a group" is a phrase which sometimes leads to bias; use it carefully

20070708234257

• 有嘢講：/Comment： Thanks. However: A man can belong to a group but a man is more than a member of a group. A man can carry out "an act of terror" without belonging to any group. A man can do something without joining (either explicitely or implicitly) a group which does it. In anycase, terrorist =/= terror group member.

--Hillgentleman | 書 2007年7月8號 (日) 23:42 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Agreement

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

I agree with you very much. I will take your advice in heart. I have been so worry about the neutrality of the words. I guess this is interesting example to illustrate my point. Words do carry point of views. Thank you for your advice.

--WikiCantona 2007年7月9號 (一) 09:25 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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邀請出席香港維基媒體協會成立典禮暨2007香港夏聚

謹訂於2007年7月14日 （星期六）下午三時 假香港城市大學康樂樓9樓城峰閣舉行 香港維基媒體協會成立典禮 WIKIMEDIA HONG KONG Establishment Ceremony 敬備茶點　恭候光臨　懇賜花籃 如未克撥冗光臨，請到哩度覆示

2007年7月9號 (一) 00:09 (UTC)~敬約

你知唔知更新

響2007年7月12日，頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換畫咗喇。你新寫篇文章「新世界七大奇蹟」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你日後見到得意益智嘅新文章，請您喺「你知唔知？」對話頁度推舉。夾埋呢篇，您總共有1篇文章喺呢欄度亮過相。

好多謝閣下嘅貢獻。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年7月12號 (四) 05:52 (UTC)

唔好意思，睇過模對話版，因為個留言冇簽名同註明開文者，先有呢個問題；而家收番個通知。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年7月12號 (四) 06:15 (UTC)

List all new article

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Is there a command to show/list all the articles I've ever created? Thank you.

--WikiCantona 2007年7月10號 (二) 12:04 (UTC)

• 新評論：

20070710132741

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Special:Newpages??

--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年7月10號 (二) 13:27 (UTC)

• 新評論：

20070712132102

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Special:Newpages cannot display all the pages I have ever created, only a few pages I have created recently.

--WikiCantona 2007年7月12號 (四) 05:21 (UTC)

• 新評論：

唔知... meta:request for query? 機械人? toolserver?

20070712055055

• 有嘢講：/Comment： 如果你識mySQL，或者可試下去meta:request for query，查下資料庫？或者要揾下有無機械人做？近排德國個toolserver斷咗；唔知渠地有無。。。

--Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年七月十二號（星期四）格林尼治 05時50分55秒。 2007年7月12號 (四) 05:50 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070712055055 有乜連過來

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記住nothanks 個suspected copyviolation嘅編者

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

負責檢查呢篇文嘅維基人喺加入侵權信息之後，請喺Wikipedia:版權問題今日嘅審查部份加上　
*{{subst:article-cv|韦氏国际英语词典}} 自 [http://www.cosmopolitanhotel.cn/tour/viewthread.php?tid=629]--~~~~ ，
之後到貢獻者嘅對話頁加上以下有關侵犯版權嘅信息　{{subst:nothanks|韦氏国际英语词典}} --~~~~ 。

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年七月二十號（星期五）格林尼治 04時31分49秒。 2007年7月20號 (五) 04:31 (UTC)

• 新評論：

20070720132148

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

will do.

--WikiCantona 2007年7月20號 (五) 05:21 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:WikiCantona/20070720132148 有乜連過來

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WP:CV

你唔記得開版權頁。 我開咗 。

負責檢查呢篇文嘅維基人喺加入侵權信息之後，請喺Wikipedia:版權問題今日嘅審查部份加上　*{{subst:article-cv|嚴嵩}} 自 [http://forum.pchome.com.tw/forum/post.php?mode=item&type=1&board=art_festival&subject=6089&read=1]--~~~~ ， 之後到貢獻者嘅對話頁加上以下有關侵犯版權嘅信息　{{subst:nothanks|嚴嵩}} --~~~~ 。

• -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年七月二十八號（星期六）格林尼治 05時46分25秒。

Gratitude

Thankyou very much WikiCantona for your Brilliant help and effort!

May you be Blessed and may Cantonese wikipedia Prosper!

Kind regards --Jason Lee 2007年7月30號 (一) 04:40 (UTC)

粵翻譯

家下未有指引。之不過，準則當然係廣東音貼近原音，原意係當地音，而唔係英文譯音。HenryLi 2007年8月2號 (四) 00:47 (UTC)

• 通勝都係其中一個書，舊文獻有好多呢類譯名。可能有人做過研究都唔定。HenryLi 2007年8月2號 (四) 13:29 (UTC)

Sexual Explicit external links

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

What is the policy regarding the sexually explicit external links in the External links area? At least in English wiki?

--WikiCantona 2007年8月8號 (三) 22:19 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Any external link irrelevant to the subject matter is deleted as spam.

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： Any external link irrelevant to the subject matter is deleted as spam.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月九號（星期四）格林尼治 13點54分29秒。 2007年8月9號 (四) 13:54 (UTC)

• 新評論：

20070809234559

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

The interesting things are that the subject is about the Japanese AV porn star. The links to her sites containing nudity. Of course, there are links about her containing no nudity. It seems to be more about the selection of links. What is the base of selection of links, is the matter here...

--WikiCantona 2007年8月9號 (四) 15:45 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Wikipedia is not censored. WP:NOT

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： Wikipedia is not censored. WP:NOT. We keep an external link if it is useful to the encyclopaedic content. EN:WP:PORN and the references therein should answer you questions.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月九號（星期四）格林尼治 16點04分26秒。 2007年8月9號 (四) 16:04 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Censorship is not issue here.

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Usefulness is the key. The external links is useful to illustrate the subjects. In the example I mentioned, there are many selections available to the topic that can equally well illustrate the article. I check with the same article in Japanese and Chinese, they chose the less explicit links or links carrying out warming. It seems to me that the selection is purely based on author's value. I guess the factor here is whether the links are ads or promotion or commerical in nature.

Is there guideline on what sort of external links is better for Wikipedia ?

--WikiCantona 2007年8月9號 (四) 16:20 (UTC)

• 新評論：

The discussions and references in WP:PORN should answer your questions.

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： An external link is as useful as how much it contributes to the encyclopaedic content. For example, if the article discusses the body features of the actor, an external link to an image of the body is relevant.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月九號（星期四）格林尼治 17點21分38秒。 2007年8月9號 (四) 17:21 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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See also EN:WP:EL.

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• 有嘢講：/Comment：

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月九號（星期四）格林尼治 23點16分21秒。 2007年8月9號 (四) 23:16 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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See also: en:WP:PORN.

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： See also: en:WP:PORN.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月九號（星期四）格林尼治 13點59分38秒。 2007年8月9號 (四) 13:59 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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北原多香子

I don't understand your comment here[14]. "Commercial nature" is not a sin by itself; an "official" site maintained by the actor herself could be informative and encyclopaedic, and would most likely be better than just "another fan site". Can you be more specific in that particular action?* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月十號（星期五）格林尼治 01點38分38秒。

That was not an offical site maintained by actor herself but a site to promote AV disc featured the actress in question (and online sale feature). That is what I called "commercial". The author himself may use it as reference for her disc in the article. I replaced it with a site with all info of the discs she featured in without the selling feature. en:WP:EL#Links_normally_to_be_avoided--WikiCantona 2007年8月10號 (五) 01:52 (UTC)

廿一候選者中 （style, 太國語）

It is not 國語. 國語 folks will say 在二十一個候選者當中. In fact it is closer to 文言.

It is perfectly reasonable to have a more condensed written form in ANY language, including cantonese.  At the end of the day, sound and sight are different senses.  Speech and writing are different media.  The requirement are different.  It has nothing to do with 國語。

As a general rule, Cantonese wikipedia articles should be tighter than Kwok Yue Wikipedia articles, because Cantonese is condenser than Kwok Yue. Adding excess 助語詞 takes one in the opposite direction.

• -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月十九號（星期日）格林尼治 04點58分15秒。

• My friend, you have conflated two ideas:

1. Use less words to clearly present an idea, a point, a fact → (presentation)
2. Use less words to say the same thing in a sentense → (style).

• We are talking about the second one in this case. From a personal experience of editing, I tends to agree with you that Cantonese articles is more "condense" than that written in Gwok Yue. e.g. We use more single word than double. e.g. "翻譯" → "譯"; "修改" → "改". It is not necessarily so if Cantonese element is to preserve.
• When a sentense is written, I choose more Cantonese style - based largely on everyday speech. For example, the "時" and "嗰陣" is sometime interchangable, I always choose the latter for being more Cantonese. However, most of time, it's just not Cantonese at all to use "時". 『廿一候選者中』is totally uncantonese, more closed to the "standard Chinese" written form. 『廿一候選者之中』is okay (the Ji makes a different)，『喺廿一候選名單裏面』is bettter. 『者』I have no idea how Cantonese this is, I avoid it.
• Some people think Cantonese wiki is unnecessary because the "standard" written form (標準中文) is used in Chinese wiki and that the standard written form is not Gwok Yue, they will never say Gwok Yue Wiki. However, we all know the standard written form is more a puppet of Gwok Yue, formal words always comes from Gwok Yue. This is very dangerous line to walk if writing in a "compact style" sometimes is indistinguishable with "standard written form", 『廿一候選者中』is in standard written form, for this reason and this reason alone 『喺廿一候選名單裏面』should be chosen.
• Traditionally, there is no such thing as pure Cantonese written language, Written form is either referring to the Standard Chinese or Classical Chinese. The truest base of written Cantonese is speech. Away from speech too much is just like writing in the Standard Chinese with Cantonese vocabulary and some Cantonese sentence arrangement. I don't know that is the direction we should go. Yuet Classical Chinese might be the answer if a true written form (very different than speech) is to develop....
• Finally, please don't let that "efficiency" creepping into writing for sake of "Cantonese wikipedia articles should be tighter than Kwok Yue Wikipedia articles." Clear, and precise is good, Cantonese comes with "style" is good too. I enjoy that freedom. Don't get me wrong, I think how you cleaned up some article (use less word to write the same article) is good. I do think some style do no harm.

In a nutshell: Don't change for the sake of compactness, styles and Cantoneseness must be considered. 

• --WikiCantona 2007年8月19號 (日) 09:49 (UTC)
  • OK. We slightly disagree. (Personal opinion: I feel better when I read a shorter sentence.) But I understand your point. * -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月十九號（星期日）格林尼治 21點29分28秒。

Re: Suspected sockpuppets on User:Jimmylai0312

The user Jimmylai0312A does not exists on the user list.[15] So you have incorrect suspection for the user account which does not have any sockpuppets. Please, assume good faith. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月20號 (一) 13:37 (UTC)

It's apporiate for moving a page from a non existent user account to a subpage, however in this wiki, the users accounts cannot be deleted in this wiki. What you have deleted, it's only a user page (a page in User: namespace) which does not belong to any user account, the contents of the page was created by Jimmylai0312 (User account Jimmylai0312A does not exists in this wiki.[16][17]) This means there's only a user account called Jimmylai0312 and there's no account at this wiki called Jimmylai0312A. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月20號 (一) 19:15 (UTC)

At this moment, all deleted contributions can be viewed by account with sysop previlleges, by Special:Deletedcontributions, also sysops can view or restore the contents what sysops are deleted recently. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月20號 (一) 19:18 (UTC)

……用中文講可能會易明啲。你搬頁係可以嘅，但係就冇證據證明到Jimmylai0312響度玩緊襪公仔，因為用戶戶口Jimmylai0312A響呢個wiki度重未存在，所以佢寫入去嘅User:Jimmylai0312A，響而家來講，只係一個無頁主，響User空間名度嘅一版。噉樣講希望你可以明白。有戶口未必一定要有用戶頁；有用戶頁未必一定有戶口，切記。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月20號 (一) 19:34 (UTC)

It is possible to create a page in the User namespace even if the user account does not exists on the wiki. To know whether the user account exists in the wiki, open up the user page assocciated to the user, then check that whether the "User contributions / Logs / Block user / Email user" links exists in the toolbox or not. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月21號 (二) 06:24 (UTC)

I think it is not the strange behaviour. the user page can also check that the user is exists in this wiki or not. In the English and Chinese wikis, anonymous editors cannot create a page in those wikis, can resolve some problems, however it cannot prevented when a register user created a page for another user page in the user namespace. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月22號 (三) 01:08 (UTC)

• It is not a problem at all. It is just part of the simplicity and freedom of mediawiki. * -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年八月二十二號（星期三）格林尼治 03點58分28秒。

你知唔知更新

頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換咗畫咗喇。響2007年8月27日，你推薦篇文「盜版黨」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你再見到有得意益智嘅新文章，請您去「你知唔知？」對話頁推舉。

好多謝閣下嘅貢獻提名。下次提名嗰陣記住要簽名，否則提名將唔會被考慮。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月27號 (一) 08:30 (UTC)

因為先前嘅提名無簽名，睇提名記錄頁，係閣下提名嘅，噉就以為篇文都係你開嘅。建議下次提名嗰陣，如果開文嘅另有其人，就可以響嗰版提埋。呢個都係更加方便噉去做更新嘅工作。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月27號 (一) 08:45 (UTC)

If an article is a collective effort, they can also consider as part of the author. However this also needs to mention that at the nomination page to let the updater know what's hapopening to that article. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月27號 (一) 09:43 (UTC)

Re: Range blocks for 221.12[4567].0.0/16

For those blocked IP ranges, you can see the contributions for 221.126.226.110, 221.127.194.166, 221.127.193.223, 221.127.195.189, 221.127.193.82, 221.126.227.141 et al. For those IPs above, they are checked they are coming from the same ISP (HGC).[18] Hence a IP range block is used to prevent further vandalism. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月27號 (一) 09:43 (UTC)

你知唔知更新

頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換咗畫咗喇。響2007年8月28日，你推薦篇文「蓬金鐵」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你再見到有得意益智嘅新文章，請您去「你知唔知？」對話頁推舉。

好多謝閣下嘅提名，另外要留意一吓嘅，就係響DYK度都要係五日內嘅新文，或者係五日內擴充過嘅新文，詳情請睇Template talk:你知唔知。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年8月28號 (二) 17:54 (UTC)

Remove references

Why did you remove the references here[19]?* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二號（星期日）格林尼治 08點55分47秒。

Sorry, my mistake, I have not read the entire pages in thinking that the {{cn}} is removed for no reason, reserved the page in one click.--WikiCantona 2007年9月2號 (日) 09:52 (UTC)

Do you feel the pain in not being able to use mw:extension:StringFunctions?

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• 有嘢講：/Comment： Go and Vote at bugzilla:6455 ! * -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月四號（星期二）格林尼治 09點58分18秒。

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月四號（星期二）格林尼治 09點58分18秒。 2007年9月4號 (二) 09:58 (UTC)

• 新評論：

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回：公正行

公證行應該係surveyor，不過英文嗰面無呢個解釋。有啲工好似measuring sworn同tally都同呢樣有關。HenryLi 2007年9月15號 (六) 17:34 (UTC)

回：Maggots

我都唔知叫乜，可能老人家先知，姑且叫蛆啦。HenryLi 2007年9月16號 (日) 01:53 (UTC)

你知唔知更新

響2007年9月17日，頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換畫咗喇。你新寫篇文章「雷迪」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你日後見到得意益智嘅新文章，請您喺「你知唔知？」對話頁度推舉。夾埋呢篇，您總共有1篇文章喺呢欄度亮過相。

頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換咗畫咗喇。響2007年9月17日，你推薦篇文「海豚音」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你再見到有得意益智嘅新文章，請您去「你知唔知？」對話頁推舉。

頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換咗畫咗喇。響2007年9月17日，你推薦篇文「煎堆」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你再見到有得意益智嘅新文章，請您去「你知唔知？」對話頁推舉。

好多謝閣下嘅貢獻。--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年9月17號 (一) 03:48 (UTC)

回：葡文對粵語嘅影響

都幾得意。澳門同香港都有唔少廣東話同番話對譯古書，不迥唔係個個都可掂到。HenryLi 2007年9月19號 (三) 07:18 (UTC)

Please help with template 中文數字

20070920141715

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

I've tried to make a template:中文數字/淨, its purpose to change number into Chinese number 1234 -> 一二三四，without much success, please help‎

--WikiCantona 2007年9月20號 (四) 06:17 (UTC)

• 新評論：

template:中文數目

20070920064905

• 有嘢講：/Comment： 1. yours has correct syntax but it is too primitive for your purpose; 2.use template:中文數目.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二十號（星期四）格林尼治 06點49分05秒。 2007年9月20號 (四) 06:49 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Yes, but

20070920145437

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

I understood that, the purpose for template is to do figure without the 十 百 千 萬 ....

--WikiCantona 2007年9月20號 (四) 06:54 (UTC)

• 新評論：

use template:中文數目代入 or template:中文數目

20070920143901

• 有嘢講：/Comment： As I said, if you are going to substitute it, use template:中文數目代入 ; else use template:中文數目,.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二十號（星期四）格林尼治 14點39分01秒。 2007年9月20號 (四) 14:39 (UTC)

• 新評論：

thank

20070920224645

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

That's great !

--WikiCantona 2007年9月20號 (四) 14:46 (UTC)

• 新評論：

P.S. the first models are at zh-classical:template:Nun2Chinese etc, by Shinjiman, but

20070920152734

• 有嘢講：/Comment： I don't know if zh-classical: has all the models for substitution yet.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二十號（星期四）格林尼治 15點27分34秒。 2007年9月20號 (四) 15:27 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070920152734 有乜連過來

有乜連過來

有乜連過來

有乜連過來

有乜連過來

template:中文數目代入

20070920065329

• 有嘢講：/Comment：From this diff[20] I guess that template:中文數目代入 is what your really want.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二十號（星期四）格林尼治 06點53分29秒。 2007年9月20號 (四) 06:53 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070920065329 有乜連過來

有乜連過來

I can't figure out on Subst

20070921085921

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Let me take you the long way, I've tried the largely function way of template:造年 putting into zh-classical (zh-classical:template:造年). I think I am one step away from completion (unless you like to improve on it). The final hinderance is create the century date.

1. use {{CalBcDate}} to get the century
2. use switch function to convent number into a Chinese character zh-classical:template:CenturyConv
3. the problem I don't want any code in the final outcome page, but a clean century in the resulting page - subst... However, I can't figure that out.

Thank you.

--WikiCantona 2007年9月21號 (五) 00:59 (UTC)

• 新評論：

you must put subst in front of all template calls and parser functions.

20070921011015

• 有嘢講：/Comment： For example, {{subst:#ifexpr:1+1=2|yes|no}} gives yes

References: meta:help:substitution, meta:help:ParserFunctions, etc Give me a simple example and I can show you what to do.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二十一號（星期五）格林尼治 01點10分15秒。 2007年9月21號 (五) 01:10 (UTC) P.S. "All" means "all relevant".

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20070921011015 有乜連過來

有乜連過來

中文數字、中文數目、中文數位

please carefully check the differences oftemplate:中文數字、template:中文數目、template:中文數位。It appears that your naming at zh-classical:template:中文數字 would lead to much confusion in the future.* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年九月二十一號（星期五）格林尼治 01點44分22秒。

fixed.--WikiCantona 2007年9月21號 (五) 02:20 (UTC)

譯

20071013091107

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

“elevate global consciousness" about the threat posed by climate change. 提升全世界對氣候變暖嘅覺醒 - 點改好啲。

--WikiCantona 2007年10月13號 (六) 01:11 (UTC)

• 新評論：

提升全世界對氣候變暖所帶來嘅威脅嘅醒覺

20071013033908

• 有嘢講：/Comment： 睇情況，若係 quote，要直譯，無得再改；若係介紹，可以削咁啲名詞，改做動詞，如「提醒世人 全球暖化嘅威脅」之類

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月十三號（星期六）格林尼治 03點39分08秒。 2007年10月13號 (六) 03:39 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20071013033908 有乜連過來

有乜連過來

kick 手難題個 kick 字點寫？

• -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月十五號（星期一）格林尼治 03點20分31秒。

re: 手扼 或 手鈪

我諗金字邊 "手鈪" 會似樣啲 - Hardys 2007年10月15號 (一) 10:16 (UTC)

金字邊都唔一定係指金屬，而手字邊個扼係動詞，金字邊個鈪仲未查到意思，暫時用住先 - Hardys 2007年10月15號 (一) 10:49 (UTC)

當年今日 template and mainpage

20071021203902

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

Hi, I am very fustrated and even upset that you've changed all the stuffs about 當年今日 which I have been working everyday. The previous setting is very useful to me. If you like to make sustantial changes like that, Please purpose it in the discussion section first. I request you to change at least 當年今日 section back the way it was.

--WikiCantona 2007年10月21號 (日) 12:39 (UTC)

• 新評論：

I am sorry that I have done it too quickly; let us work this out. however, the relevant links are still there - see "今個月". See also Wikipedia:當年今日

20071021133440

• 有嘢講：/Comment：And I have only remvoed the too many wrong links between the two different sets of pages (Dong Nin Gum Yat and Wikipedia:Dong Nin Gum Yat). Of course you can still go from one to the other. The key point is that: Dong Nin Gum Yat is in hte main namespace, ie content, whereas wikipedia:Dong Nin Gum Yat is specifically about the mainpage template.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 13點34分40秒。 2007年10月21號 (日) 13:34 (UTC)

• 新評論：

Links that are useful.

20071022100542

• 有嘢講：/Comment：

What you did certainly is for the good of Wikipedia. I have not answered you because I was very sleepy yesterday. Anyway, for the front page changes, the discussion is needed. May be a different vision of it may be emerged. Wikipedia process is slow and some gradual. Users/readers don't expect things change overnight. People (include me) may be upset to find front page changes when the links they use frequently was "lost". Unlike you, people may comes once a week, they may not just find they want. Noted that you have preserve link in the second level. For user interface design perspective, one may opt for cleanliness over usibility. For old people, one step different makes a huge difference.

--WikiCantona 2007年10月22號 (一) 02:05 (UTC)

• 新評論：

I now see your point. Sorry very much.

20071022085038

• 有嘢講：/Comment： I see some links are missing in the template pages.

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十二號（星期一）格林尼治 08點50分38秒。 2007年10月22號 (一) 08:50 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:Hillgentleman/20071022085038 有乜連過來

有乜連過來

有乜連過來

有乜連過來

links

到底你想要邊個link? 有用嘅 link 我全部保留曬。 wikipedia:當年今日/10月個link 係 "今個月"意思清楚過"舊文"好多。portal:時人時事嘅link係頭頂。* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 15點51分17秒。

你而家咁 當年今日出咗2個一模一樣嘅links.

你而家咁 當年今日出咗2個一模一樣嘅links. 一個頭頂，一個地下。* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 15點53分25秒。

重有，頭版係畀讀者嘅大門

重有，頭版係畀讀者嘅大門；一欄出咗兩個「當年今日」links，一個係文章namespace，一個係wikipedia namespace，肯定頭暈；要方便編者，可以響第度，例如社區大堂、管理員布告版。* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 15點57分12秒。

wikipedia:當年今日/當年今日完全兩樣嘢。畀一般讀者睇嘅係main namespace 嘅當年今日；而wikipedia namespace 嘅，只關編者事；若讀者睇到就會亂曬龍。

再講一次，wikipedia:當年今日嘅功能只有一個，就係管頭版嘅當年今日模；而當年今日就係個表，list，整理啲日期文章。完全兩樣嘢。

畀一般讀者睇嘅係main namespace 嘅當年今日；而wikipedia namespace 嘅，只關編者事；若讀者睇到就會亂曬龍。* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 16點02分24秒。

"當年今日"大前日嘅link真係有用? 我就寧可要聽日

"當年今日"大前日嘅link，對你真係有用過當年聽日嘅link? 我就寧可要聽日，編同讀都好。* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 16點23分18秒。

一句講曬，我取消過嘅頭版link，係得維基新聞（英｜中） 同埋訃聞。

一句講曬，我取消過嘅頭版link，係得維基新聞（英｜中） 同埋訃聞。 維基新聞關連太細，而且其實樓下有；訃聞太唔常用，要嘅，都應該響portal時人時事度轉過去。其他links我全部保留。老友，你自己話啲link有用，但我已經問咗你好幾次到底你要邊條拎。你唔答，我唔知你想點。* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十一號（星期日）格林尼治 16點33分44秒。

回：楔位文章嘅翻譯建議

已經答咗。HenryLi 2007年10月24號 (三) 22:39 (UTC)

Partido Independentista Puertorriqueño (PIP)

Dear WikiCantona,

Could you provide help creating a zh-yue. entry on the Partido Independentista Puertorriqueño ?

Thank you!

Please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_Independence_Party

All the best WikiCantona!

ChestHeavy 2007年10月26號 (五) 18:59 (UTC)

direct deposit

Do you know with certainty that "direct deposit" is 匯錢? I have always thought 匯錢=電匯=money wiring, in which the bank charges $$$ ; Are they the same?

• -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十七號（星期六）格林尼治 07點16分37秒。

to get a list of your contributions

20071029172909

• 有嘢講：/Comment： Here is an elementary python programme which uses m:pywikipedia. It will give you a list of 550 contributions before 2007-10-10 12:34:56. And then a set (ie without duplications). You can modify the path to suit your purposes. I believe that the limit parameter has a maximum of 5000 (or 2500?).

#TO GET A PAGE FROM A URL
#USES site.getUrl()

import wikipedia
import re

site=wikipedia.getSite()

path = '/w/index.php?title=special:contributions&contribs=user&target=wikiCantona&offset=20071010123456&limit=550'
l =site.getUrl(path)  # GETTING THE HTML


### HACK BELOW################################################################3333#####
# TREATING THE PAGE TO MORE READABLE FORM - THAT IS, EXTRACT THE STUFF OUT OF THE CRAP

print('............extracting the contributions from the html...................')

oldid_a = re.compile(ur'oldid.*?\</a\>')
listolda =oldid_a.findall(l)
for i in listolda:
 print(i)

print'---------here we print the title, sans oldid -------------------------------------\n'
for i in listolda:
 spl = i.split('"')
 print spl[2]

print '======Here is a set  ============================================================\n'


s=set([])
for i in listolda:
 s.add(i.split('"')[2])
for i in s:
 print(i)

wikipedia.stopme()

--* -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零七年十月二十九號（星期一）格林尼治 17點29分09秒。 2007年10月29號 (一) 17:29 (UTC)

• 新評論：

User talk:WikiCantona/20071029172909 有乜連過來

re; 當年今日

最多話馬丁路德係宗教改革關鍵人物，但話"佢嘅宗教改革"好似唔多妥，可以話：「483年：德國神學學者馬丁路德出世，佢係宗教改革關鍵人物，亦導致基督教分裂。」其實我都唔知點寫好 - Hardys 2007年11月10號 (六) 11:24 (UTC)

你知唔知更新

頭版嘅你知唔知？專欄已經換咗畫咗喇。響2007年11月24日，你推薦篇文「大鐘樓」獲選亮相，真係恭喜晒！如果你再見到有得意益智嘅新文章之事實，請您去「你知唔知？」對話頁推舉。

好多謝閣下嘅提名。唔好意思，要咁遲先睇到有呢個項目，更新來遲咗小小。 --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年11月24號 (六) 14:51 (UTC)

re: 票

要慢慢查，英文en:Category:Elections大把嘢抄考，不過一個人寫唔得咁多，真係要慢慢搞，而且又有其他文想寫，耐心啲啦，或者你又試吓喺en:Category:Elections搵啲文譯吓啦 - Hardys 2007年12月5號 (三) 09:58 (UTC)

提報侵權文

響提報侵權文嗰陣響文頁度貼，即係加入新侵權版嗰陣（響WP:CP最尾嗰一行嘅拎）就噉保存開版，然後再響『列新嘅侵權文章』撳一下開新版，再將個{{subst:article-cv|侵權文}}貼上去就可以㗎喇，唔使直接響嗰日嘅侵權頁度貼上去。 :) Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2007年12月6號 (四) 14:10 (UTC)

香港街道名

請問呢篇文章: en:List of streets and roads in Hong Kong 響粵語維基度有無對應嘅? 多謝!!
森理世さん 2008年1月3號 (四) 23:29 (UTC)

interesting power balance in Wikimedia Foundation

After Erik Moller (user:eloquence) got himself a job of deputy director for the foundation (reporting to Sue Gardner, who is an outsider to wikimedia foundation), and made the lead developper brion vibber report to him, the board duely elected a core developper Domaz Mituzas (user:midom) to trusteeship. * -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零八年二月二十四號（星期日）格林尼治 02點55分32秒。

I didn't pay much attention to the situation in the Foundation. Thanks for the info. It is good to know some names.

I have been busy minding my own things - haven't contributed much these days, and hoping I can do more. Later. --WikiCantona 2008年2月25號 (一) 02:54 (UTC)

伊麗莎白二世

呢度已經有伊利沙伯二世，咁伊麗莎白二世係咪應該重定向之後先至保護呢？--202.40.137.199 2008年5月22號 (四) 06:29 (UTC)

Re:有人冒認你

可能是你冒認我XD--Dragoon17c 2008年6月8號 (日) 08:53 (UTC)

簽名

想問如果我寫完一個文章之後，我自己洗唔洗簽名？內容係講一個city。同埋係邊到邊個ＳＩＴＥ有講關於簽名既野？Mhkconnie 2008年6月10號 (二) 01:23 (UTC) Thanks。

回：Javascript for conversion

你可以參攷下：User:Sl/wiki/tradsim.js、User:Sl/wiki/utoolbox.js同埋User:Sl/wiki/hks2u.js。重有，User:Sl/monobook.js。HenryLi 2008年6月11號 (三) 17:46 (UTC)

Please copyedit.

meta:Translation_requests/WMF/OurProjects2006/yue

• -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零八年六月二十二號（星期日）格林尼治 16點01分21秒。

廣東話拼音調號字母輸入軟件

• 想同你通報一聲, 廣東話拼音帶調號字母文字輸入軟件已經于廣州被研制成功.
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setModifySectionStyle

Hello. Maybe addOnloadHook function is not defined in your Wikipedia? Marc Mongenet 2008年7月9號 (三) 01:17 (UTC)

Email.

• -- :-) Hillgentleman | 書 | 二零零八年七月十七號（星期四）格林尼治 08點19分15秒。

Teochew Wikipedia

Good Morning WikiCantona,

The Request for the creation of Teochew Wikipedia has been created here. Your support would be appreciated very much. Thankyou. --Jason Lee 2008年7月24號 (四) 23:55 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your support for the future Teochew Wikipedia

--Jason Lee 2008年7月26號 (六) 04:47 (UTC)