Wikipedia:城市論壇 (政策)/歸檔/2014年12月

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呢次嘅歸檔係由Shinjiman2015年11月18號 (三) 03:22 (UTC)做嘅。[回覆]

再論間隔號[編輯]

目前嘅君子協定係:開一篇講人嘅新文章嘅時候,用唔用間隔號,要尊重開文嗰個。即係話,將「某某荷夫曼」搬去「某某·荷夫曼」,或者將「某某·荷夫曼」搬去「某某荷夫曼」,都屬於無建設性嘅編輯。但係宜家重有一個灰色地帶:一方面,出於「最簡原則」,目前有好多講人嘅文章都係淨係用姓(或者淨係用名嘅)嘅;另一方面,亦有好多文章,由於拗撬太白熱化而用外文名嘅。喺以上兩種狀況裡面,用間隔號嘅前提就根本唔成立。但係隨著粵維嘅擴張,越來越多伊類文章需要改為姓名併用,以分辨唔同人(例如皮耶·杜呂多朱斯坦·杜呂多)。同時亦有越來越多識得其他外語嘅人開始著手將外文名改成粵語名。淨係用姓或者淨係用名改為姓名併用(例如將「荷夫曼」改成「某某·荷夫曼」),或者外文名改粵語名,適唔適用自行決定用唔用間隔號,目前重有爭議。有人話應該由改名人自行決定,有人就認為應該按照「一開始無點」來處理,改嘅時候唔准加點。我宜家正式提出修改現行嘅君子協定:姓名併用嘅時候,繼續現有嘅君子協定,無間隔號唔加,有間隔號唔減。至於淨係用姓、淨係用名、或者外文名改姓名併用粵語名(因為改為淨係用姓或者淨係用名,間隔號一樣無用武之地),就當作嘅新文處理,用唔用間隔號自行決定。用間隔號嘅,繼續開無間隔號嘅跳轉,同埋/或者原文名跳轉。

講到伊道就順便講下,有人死跟著「最簡原則」,將凡係姓名併用而又(暫時)未有同姓嘅文章,未經討論就全部搬澌去祇用姓或者祇用名嘅題目;另外又有人(或者)喺無太大必要嘅情況下,未經討論將淨係用姓嘅標題改為姓名併用。我喺伊道建議修改「最簡原則」:開文章嘅時候淨用一姓一名(無中間名或者括號註解)嘅話,可以唔改就唔改;開文章嘅時候淨係用姓或者淨係用名嘅,除非係需要靠姓名併用來區分同姓唔同名嘅人,否則可以唔改都唔好改。順便講聲:外國人名係雙合名嘅,應該當一個名處理。

歡迎回應。淨回應一個問題定回應澌幾個問題都得,我唔搞捆綁式討論。【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠支持全面中止IP用戶編輯權 2014年8月19號 (二) 21:53 (UTC)[回覆]

補充:我再建議一樣嘢:開新文章標題加徂括號嘅,十有八九都係預計到將來好快就會有搞清楚嘅需要,與其剷走括號,話「需要嘅時候再加返都未遲」,不如唔好剷走,等有心人開埋相關嘅同名頁面,既避免到編輯戰,又可以推搞粵維總文章數,何樂而不為呢?【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠支持全面中止IP用戶編輯權 2014年8月20號 (三) 02:05 (UTC)[回覆]

已經講過晒,講完又再講,你咁做嘢,點得㗎!--WikiCantona (傾偈) 2015年2月5號 (四) 23:01 (UTC)[回覆]
關於間隔號問題,我表示中立。因為珠三角地區好多鬼佬人名都用到間隔號,而港澳地區就冇用。可能最近啲1980年代同1990年代初喺珠三角地區出世啲人受到本港台同翡翠台嘅影響(講話本港台同翡翠台喺珠三角地區開始有得睇,其實早喺中國內地改革開放嗰時就開始有喇)先至搞咗冇間隔號出嚟。--CRCHF (傾偈) 2015年7月5號 (日) 23:25 (UTC)[回覆]

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[編輯]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 2014年8月21號 (四) 17:35 (UTC)[回覆]

再論病毒譯名[編輯]

為徂打破病毒音同病毒譯名喺粵維嘅統治地位,本人喺爾道正式建議:

  1. 唔識某種語言,又唔識國際音標嘅人,無論係註冊用戶又好,無名氏都好,都唔應該參與某種語言嘅譯名嘅討論,以免鷄同鴨講,混淆視聽。
  2. 改唔改用非病毒譯名都好,但係病毒譯名一定要講清楚係病毒譯名。

粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠支持全面中止IP用戶編輯權 2014年9月24號 (三) 03:44 (UTC)[回覆]

Meta RfCs on two new global groups[編輯]

Hello all,

There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.

We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.

It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.

Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 2014年10月26號 (日) 18:04 (UTC)[回覆]